I find 'win quick' gambits disgusting

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PILOTOXOMXD

dude, delete the quote...

sndeww

nah

PILOTOXOMXD

WTF?? UR GONNA GET ME BANNED!! DELETE IT!!

sndeww

nah

PILOTOXOMXD

@SNUDOO, DELETE THAT $H!T NOW. PLZ!!!!! UR GONNA GET ME BANNED!!!!

sndeww
MISTER_McCHESS wrote:

snudoo why did you choose that name

 

book up

sndeww
PILOTOXOMXD wrote:

@SNUDOO, DELETE THAT $H!T NOW. PLZ!!!!! UR GONNA GET ME BANNED!!!!

no i wont:

-> get you banned

-> or delete it

PILOTOXOMXD

tru

NikkiLikeChikki
There’s a difference between being wrong and being loud-wrong. The OP persisted with the wrongheaded attacks even as all of his arguments were soundly thumped. If you read the thread, my rejoinders were reasoned and calm as I carefully picked apart his points with. He doubled down with even more dubious claims and insults, and that’s when the atomic clock started approaching midnight. This has led us here to outright mockery of the insanity of his position. Am I sorry? Yes. I feel ashamed....
NikkiLikeChikki
*inanity—I hate you autocorrect.
PILOTOXOMXD

Y R U ashamed? He's an idiot, trying to act cool and make people stop kicking his app, and you called him and idiot that's trying to make people stop kicking his app. What's wrong with that? I don't understand

CrockPotLion

Karpov, Petrosian, Capa etc. could put together brilliant attacks as well... they just took a patient approach. Declaring great champions to be grinding emotionless bores... a little unfair? And Nehzathingyzov didn't even win the Soviet champs. Stereotypical.

PILOTOXOMXD

WTF? So neither did tal in your twisted demented version of history I guess.

PILOTOXOMXD
CrackPipeLion wrote:

Karpov, Petrosian, Capa etc. could put together brilliant attacks as well... they just took a patient approach. Declaring great champions to be grinding emotionless bores... a little unfair? And Nehzathingyzov didn't even win the Soviet champs. Stereotypical.

Petrosian only attacked when it was a forced mate. Not when it would give him a huge advantage. I never said Karpov and Capa can't attack. Capa is an endgame master, Karpov is a defensive player, but can still play aggressively when necessary. Petrosian just put up a defense like iron, earning him the Nickname Iron Tigran, bur never played aggressively.

batgirl
PILOTOXOMXD wrote:

Y R U ashamed? He's an idiot, trying to act cool and make people stop kicking his app, and you called him and idiot that's trying to make people stop kicking his app. What's wrong with that? I don't understand

Nobody's an idiot here and everyone's entitled to their opinion without being verbally attacked.

Pretty much there's been a conflation of ideas: videos promulgating quick wins through tricks,  gambits and traps -as well as some misinformation such as most gambits being unsound. 

I would agree with @Richard_Hunter about videos and books trying to  get hits or get sold by seeming to have some magic formulae.  Gambits, however, while being mostly open games containing a lot of tactical pitfalls, aren't quick win openings thanks to tricks, but rather an opportunity to use time vs material, the ultimate imbalance.   Most people study traps for several reasons: 1. to recognized them when the opportunity presents itself, 2. to avoid becoming a victim of one and 3. to improve or  hold together  a position with the threat of employing one.  Knowing traps and "playing for traps" are two different things.  

PILOTOXOMXD

Cuz its a solid opening but not a gambit

PILOTOXOMXD
batgirl wrote:
PILOTOXOMXD wrote:

Y R U ashamed? He's an idiot, trying to act cool and make people stop kicking his app, and you called him and idiot that's trying to make people stop kicking his app. What's wrong with that? I don't understand

Nobody's an idiot here and everyone's entitled to their opinion without being verbally attacked.

Pretty much there's been a conflation of ideas: videos promulgating quick wins through tricks,  gambits and traps -as well as some misinformation such as most gambits being unsound. 

I would agree with @Richard_Hunter about videos and books trying to  get hits or get sold by seeming to have some magic formulae.  Gambits, however, while being mostly open games containing a lot of tactical pitfalls, aren't quick win openings thanks to tricks, but rather an opportunity to use time vs material, the ultimate imbalance.   Most people study traps for several reasons: 1. to recognized them when the opportunity presents itself, 2. to avoid becoming a victim of one and 3. to improve or  hold together  a position with the threat of employing one.  Knowing traps and "playing for traps" are two different things.  

tru. I just get pretty heated sometimes. Sorry

NikkiLikeChikki
@batgirl - I have to disagree. Mr. Hunter is entitled to his opinion, regardless of how wrongheaded it is, but what he’s not entitled to do is crankily insult a large segment of the chess community and back up his arguments with shoddy logic and flawed historical analogies.

Where does all of this rage come from? He comes in here like a fire and brimstone preacher cursing the demon rum. What the actual hell?! Who knows, really, but when bombarded with reasoned arguments, he doubles down on the invectives.

You know what? People on YouTube use clickbaity titles. So what else is new. Even if he conflated traps and gambits, this excuses little. He should’ve apologized for slandering people who use gambits and perhaps focused on traps. Even so, should we hide all of this forbidden knowledge from the children to keep them safe? Ridiculous.
mercatorproject
PILOTOXOMXD wrote:
CrackPipeLion wrote:

Karpov, Petrosian, Capa etc. could put together brilliant attacks as well... they just took a patient approach. Declaring great champions to be grinding emotionless bores... a little unfair? And Nehzathingyzov didn't even win the Soviet champs. Stereotypical.

Petrosian only attacked when it was a forced mate. Not when it would give him a huge advantage. I never said Karpov and Capa can't attack. Capa is an endgame master, Karpov is a defensive player, but can still play aggressively when necessary. Petrosian just put up a defense like iron, earning him the Nickname Iron Tigran, bur never played aggressively.

Actually, if you read a bit about him, Pertrosian's early style was very attacking. You learn a lot about good defensive techniques if you start out that way,

mercatorproject
NikkiLikeChikki wrote:
@batgirl - I have to disagree. Mr. Hunter is entitled to his opinion, regardless of how wrongheaded it is, but what he’s not entitled to do is crankily insult a large segment of the chess community and back up his arguments with shoddy logic and flawed historical analogies.

Where does all of this rage come from? He comes in here like a fire and brimstone preacher cursing the demon rum. What the actual hell?! Who knows, really, but when bombarded with reasoned arguments, he doubles down on the invectives.

You know what? People on YouTube use clickbaity titles. So what else is new. Even if he conflated traps and gambits, this excuses little. He should’ve apologized for slandering people who use gambits and perhaps focused on traps. Even so, should we hide all of this forbidden knowledge from the children to keep them safe? Ridiculous.

 

No rage in that post.

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