i hate bullet chess
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hudson_the_goat
May 9, 2023
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#41
I agree bullet chess is just to fast
May 9, 2023
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#42
Another thing i have noticed is when i play someone who dose not sac all their pieces to try to win on time are normally around my level (800ish)
Skill issue.
May 10, 2023
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#47
U just joined today and haven’t even played one how do you hate it?
Ummm?
Whaaat?
Just play weird move to make opponent be confused
Is there something in the settings that can make you premove faster ?
some of my opponents pre move far quicker than I can and it's not a mouse or age issue, is that some kind of trick of something I'm missing ?
May 11, 2023
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#55
DonThe2nd 写道:
spicychickenboba wrote:
What point do you guys think it's appropriate to start playing bullet at?
personally i don't think bullet under 900 (bullet rating) is fun, but i know this person who seems to enjoy that somehow (1200 rapid btw...) i don't know that i think it is a good idea
IMO no one under Master strength should play bullet unless you don't care about playing good chess. An average or lower player cannot play quality moves that quickly, it is usually just about finding a move quickly and flagging the other guy. Not serious chess at all.
I'd disagree with this -- and as you are a 1000-rated player, I'd like to point out that there is a huuuge in-between region between your experience and a "master". In my experience, even at say, 1300 bullet, "actual chess" matters. At that level, I definitely needed to make sure I wasn't outplayed on the board, even though I've always been decently fast with clicking. Now at 1700 bullet, I genuinely find bullet games interesting and there are cool tactics in games. You have to follow basic chess principles -- develop, control the center, keep an eye on king safety, know stuff about endgames, etc.
That being said, I think someone can make a case that you shouldn't be, say, below 2000 rapid on chess.com before you play bullet. I know a guy at that level and I've watched his bullet, and it's pretty decent chess. (1700 players still play crazy silly stuff, I made a post about this one time). But that's still below "Master" level. And your generalization about not playing "quality" moves is simply not true.
May 11, 2023
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#56
Elite-Strategist 写道:
Bullet is not about strategic-skill or even thinking carefully (perhaps no actual thinking at all or at least very little time to do any thinking which will most-likely cause your clock to run out), but, more about the combination of fast-clicking, a race against the clocks, and, how many of the best first 24 lines of every opening you have already memorised.
Blitz-Speed is not for the rest of us non-master players; it will only cause very bad-habits...
Hm...you don't play bullet.... Well, I would say that bullet games do involve actual thinking. Also, I don't memorize opening lines. I managed to get to 1768 in bullet, which is higher than your rapid rating, so I think that opening lines are not as important as you think below a significantly higher level -- and if you are at that level, then absolutely, other aspects of chess matter in bullet games.
May 11, 2023
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#57
Elite-Strategist wrote:
spicychickenboba написал:
Elite-Strategist 写道:
Bullet is not about strategic-skill or even thinking carefully (perhaps no actual thinking at all or at least very little time to do any thinking which will most-likely cause your clock to run out), but, more about the combination of fast-clicking, a race against the clocks, and, how many of the best first 24 lines of every opening you have already memorised.
Blitz-Speed is not for the rest of us non-master players; it will only cause very bad-habits...
Hm...you don't play bullet.... Well, I would say that bullet games do involve actual thinking. Also, I don't memorize opening lines. I managed to get to 1768 in bullet, which is higher than your rapid rating, so I think that opening lines are not as important as you think below a significantly higher level -- and if you are at that level, then absolutely, other aspects of chess matter in bullet games.
I don't because it's not «real» Chess for anybody who isn't at Grand-Master or at least Master-Levels; additionally, the current Rapid rating is not my highest Rapid-Rating, which is actually 1880+, which does happen to be higher than your highest Bullet-Rating. For Masters and Above, the amount of «Thinking» that they need to do in a Bullet-Match is minimal compared to Non-Masters, simply because of already auto-ingrained sub-conscious reflex-actions; it's kind of like driving a car; a Master-Driver does not have nearly as many things to think about in order to avoid Crashing (or in Chess-context : Blundering) as would a less-experienced Driver (or Chess-Player in this topic's context).
bullet is just chess minus the calculation, not good for learning but it uses primarily your pattern recognition (aside from how fast you can move your mouse)
@spicychickenboba fair enough. That is why I said "IMO", you don't have to agree. So according to your post a player is able to actually think about his moves in bullet when he gets to the 1700 to 2000 range which is below Master (although some may call that near-Master). I notice that your bullet rating is significantly higher than your rapid and blitz (both in the 1500s). I am a bit of a slowpoke and my rating improves by hundreds for each time control (400 to 500 for bullet, 700 for blitz, 1000 for rapid and 1300 to 1400 daily). Is there anything you can tell me to help me improve under the faster time controls when I don't have time to think (but a >1700 is able to)?
May 11, 2023
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#59
DonThe2nd 写道:
@spicychickenboba fair enough. That is why I said "IMO", you don't have to agree. So according to your post a player is able to actually think about his moves in bullet when he gets to the 1700 to 2000 range which is below Master (although some may call that near-Master). I notice that your bullet rating is significantly higher than your rapid and blitz (both in the 1500s). I am a bit of a slowpoke and my rating improves by hundreds for each time control (400 to 500 for bullet, 700 for blitz, 1000 for rapid and 1300 to 1400 daily). Is there anything you can tell me to help me improve under the faster time controls when I don't have time to think (but a >1700 is able to)?
If you are 1000 rapid, I think that your stats are pretty normal, odd as it may sound. I notice you play 5 | 5, which in my experience is one of the hardest ways to play blitz (you have more time, but people just tend to be lower rated there somehow). I play 5 | 5 on the other account (3min on this one), and my blitz rating there is around 1480 (usually my blitz in 3min is like, idk, 1550). Daily is also known to tend to be an inflated rating pool compared to rapid, for people who play it often.
I didn't really do the fast tc's much until like 1100-1200 rapid, so idk, from my experience at least, it is normal to struggle with them under intermediate level. Guess that personally, my advice would be to put off on them until you are a bit stronger, and then at least from my experience, the fast tc's would come more naturally. (I just don't personally think you need to wait until master level, but that's just my opinion 
). To some degree sure, there are skills needed for bullet/blitz -- such as learning to recognize "safe" moves at a higher frequency and speed.
For what it's worth, I actually don't think I have a huge discrepancy between my bullet rating and other ratings. I've been stressed out this week due to some stuff, and lost a ton of games, but my rapid rating under non-stressed conditions is in the 1600s (actually 1730+ on my other account) -- and experience tells me if I play rated bullet while fried, I drop to around 1550-1600. So, imo, my ratings across time controls are actually decently similar.