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universityofpawns

I seem to get much stronger as the game goes on because I hate openings. Studying them seems very boring to me, guess I'd rather think than memorize. I've been told I'll never get much over 1500 without some opening study. Which would be the best openings for me? The type that would differ much tactics until at least the mid-game? I've tried the Caro and some obscure openings that are purely structural, but the mindless attackers cream me in the openings. Attacking style seems to be the most popular on this site and I guess is by far the easy way to go.

The_4th_Stonewall

Thats the best part of openings, there is really nothing right for you just try something and pick then play whichever one you like. Stick with it is the key, that way you will keep getting better at it.

thaynethomas

go to youtube type in openings you will get lots of choices and some great explanations of how they run

Sqod
universityofpawns wrote:

The type that would differ much tactics until at least the mid-game?

I think you mean "defer," not differ. d4-pawn openings have a reputation for being slower than e4-pawn openings, and c4-pawn openings and Nf3 openings tend to transpose into d4-pawn openings, so as a quick, approximate solution to your problem, I'd recommend starting with d4, c4, or Nf3.

Also, maybe you could go with a *system*, not an opening, where you don't need to consider so much what your opponent is doing, such as the Colle System (a d4-opening) when you play White. There also exist systems for Black, such as those related to the Pirc or King's Indian Defense. However, I mostly agree with the comments above that mention you can't always escape opening tactics, no matter what opening you choose.

universityofpawns

It was defer, differ was a typo. Thanks for the comments.

BISHOP_e3

Have you tried Chess960? 

kindaspongey

For someone seeking help with choosing openings, I usually bring up Openings for Amateurs by Pete Tamburro (2014).

http://kenilworthian.blogspot.com/2014/05/review-of-pete-tamburros-openings-for.html

I believe that it is possible to see a fair portion of the beginning of Tamburro's book by going to the Mongoose Press site. Another possibility is Discovering Chess Openings by GM John Emms (2006).

https://web.archive.org/web/20140627114655/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/hansen91.pdf

"Each player should choose an opening that attracts him. Some players are looking for a gambit as White, others for Black gambits. Many players that are starting out (or have bad memories) want to avoid mainstream systems, others want dynamic openings, and others want calm positional pathways. It’s all about personal taste and personal need.

For example, if you feel you’re poor at tactics you can choose a quiet positional opening (trying to hide from your weakness and just play chess), or seek more dynamic openings that engender lots of tactics and sacrifices (this might lead to more losses but, over time, will improve your tactical skills and make you stronger)." - IM Jeremy Silman (January 28, 2016)

Also, perhaps look at:

https://www.chess.com/article/view/picking-the-correct-opening-repertoire

http://chess-teacher.com/best-chess-openings/

https://www.chess.com/blog/TigerLilov/build-your-opening-repertoire

https://www.chess.com/blog/CraiggoryC/how-to-build-an-opening-repertoire

In a 2006 GM John Nunn book, in connection with opening study, it is stated that, if a "book contains illustrative games, it is worth playing these over first", and the reader was also advised, "To begin with, only study the main lines - that will cope with 90% of your games, and you can easily fill in the unusual lines later."

"... I feel that the main reasons to buy an opening book are to give a good overview of the opening, and to explain general plans and ideas. ..." - GM John Nunn (2006)

In one of his books about an opening, GM Nigel Davies wrote (2005), "The way I suggest you study this book is to play through the main games once, relatively quickly, and then start playing the variation in actual games. Playing an opening in real games is of vital importance - without this kind of live practice it is impossible to get a 'feel' for the kind of game it leads to. There is time enough later for involvement with the details, after playing your games it is good to look up the line."

universityofpawns

thanks for all the wonderful comments and the effort everybody put into trying to help me.

Diakonia
universityofpawns wrote:

thanks for all the wonderful comments and the effort everybody put into trying to help me.

Dont stress about openings.  I dont like studying openings either, and made it to USCF A class on opening principles.  

misterbasic
If you don't want to study openings, pick lines that dont have many traps in them and tend to all transpose into each other. That way you can usually reach a playable middlegame.
evert823
BISHOP_e3 wrote:

Have you tried Chess960? 

:)

Diakonia
Darksaiint wrote:

Who told you that you needed to know openings to be over 1500? TCause that's bull. I know about 5 openings solid that I repeat every game and I'm 2300

I think its beginners mentality.  It sounds good to say you know X amount of openings 15-25 moves deep.  

guineapig25
Pick one , study it, try it in an unrated game, study it more, until your ready to try it in a rated game
BISHOP_e3

kPPick this one>>>

kindaspongey
Diakonia wrote (~8 weeks ago):

just my .02 cents...

Beginners waste entirely to much time on openings.  You can find post after post after post asking this standard question.  "I know the <insert opening here> 10-20 moves deep, but im dropping pieces what do i do?"  

What do you do?  Quit memorizing openings and learn Opening Principles. If you dont understand the where and why behind each move, then why are you playing them? 

After you understand Opening Principles, then find a couple of openings with white, and a couple with black that you like to play.  Find GM's that play the openings you want to learn.  Go over their games to get a feel for the opening(s) This will give you a general idea of the move order of the openings.  Though the move order wont make much sense, you will at least get an idea of what to do move order wise.  

Pawn Structure...Why is this highlighted?  because when you start to understand the pawn structure associated with each opening, the moves will start to make sense.  Get a good book on pawn structures, and the opening(s) you want to learn.  

One of the most important things about learning and understanding openings is that youll understand the middlegame involved with that opening.  

xxx

williamn27

Not really, OP, I've reached 1500 with a defensive style. And I like it.

williamn27
Teichmann70 wrote:
Opening is the most important part of chess

Really? For a 1300 tactics is the most important. For GMs everything is important.

CrimsonKnight7

I like youtube also. I like going through trap lines. I don't remember them all, there are so many. But they also are usually in the opening. I have 2 books called traps, and zaps, which I liked also. One covers Kings pawn openings, and the other covers other openings. They may be a little out dated and too easy for you though, but I liked them.

If you like certain openings, check youtube its free. I am not saying you will learn everything needed, however you can do forum searches on said openings, and books most recommended for that opening, people are generally helpful. Someone has mentioned a site that just covers openings, and variations as well. I don't remember it, and someone here may have mentioned it already in a previous thread.

Batgirl has a cool blog you may find interesting also. If your interested in trappy lines. The Dunst is loaded with them.

Anyway, good luck.

kindaspongey

"If you want to play chess competitively, then you must develop an opening repertoire." - GM Patrick Wolff (1997)

universityofpawns

Thanks for all of the great posts!!! I basically solved my particular problem by playing longer games. Apparently, I am still good at analysis but need time, I am 62 and my memory is starting to go. My standard rating is around 1600-1700 now, but I need a lot more games for it to become stable to see what I really am.