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billyblatt
waffllemaster wrote:
billyblatt wrote:

Maybe that is how we should be learning chess: backwards. From the endgames towards the opening. Mastering a few pieces at a time, instead of jumping into the deep end.

Capablanca has you beat by about 100 years on that bit of advice

Excellent. Any chance for a reference?

plutonia
Estragon wrote:
I've had a master resign a drawn R+f&h pawns v R ending!  It was the sort of position I would play out even if it were losing because there are so many opportunities to screw it up to a draw.

 

A little time on Rook & pawn and King & pawn endings turns into a fountain of points on the scoreboard.  Those who spend their study time on openings instead are your best customers.

 

Interesting, I don't know about rook ending with f & h pawn. Could you please post some lines/examples?

 

And to contribute to the thread, I found really interesting even to practice K+R vs K endgame.

Everybody knows the basic (and boring) mating pattern. But there are advanced and spectacular techniques in which you use your rook in a completely different way. It teaches a lot about square control and zugzwang. If you want to know about it, just turn on your Fritz / Rybka / Houdini.

Even practicing K+Q vs K has some value. For example:

 

waffllemaster

Early in my tournament playing experience vs a 2100 I got a R and king vs my opponent's R and f+h pawns.  I resigned and he let me know it was a book draw heh.

The middlegame was interesting though, looking back.  I lost a pawn accidentally but looking now it was a good unintended sacrifice.

ah93704559

Is it true that a female grandmaster, in a recent match, didnt know how to do this over the board: mate with two bishops?

shepi13

It was a bishop and knight mate, and it was the women's world champion I think.

tliu1222

IM Danny Kopec went to our chess school. He managed (in a tournament) to win his opponents pawns and

win with a N+B!!!

shepi13
RandyRhoads wrote:

Is it true that a male world champion couldn't see a mate-in-1 in a recent game ?

What do you think is recent? I don't think that's happened since 2006.

pattell

Krammnik left homself wide ope to a mate in 1 He did not see one in a match against Fritz a few years ago and the computer beat him. He immediately laughed about it.

shepi13

Well, I wasn't even playing chess in 2006, and I was only like 10 Laughing

FrankBGambit

bkn isvery good mateing net too learn, how to corrdinate the pair together is very good skill to learn for other types of mateing nets, you should look u mateing nets.

Mainline_Novelty
plutonia wrote:
Estragon wrote:
I've had a master resign a drawn R+f&h pawns v R ending!  It was the sort of position I would play out even if it were losing because there are so many opportunities to screw it up to a draw.

 

A little time on Rook & pawn and King & pawn endings turns into a fountain of points on the scoreboard.  Those who spend their study time on openings instead are your best customers.

 

Interesting, I don't know about rook ending with f & h pawn. Could you please post some lines/examples?

 

And to contribute to the thread, I found really interesting even to practice K+R vs K endgame.

Everybody knows the basic (and boring) mating pattern. But there are advanced and spectacular techniques in which you use your rook in a completely different way. It teaches a lot about square control and zugzwang. If you want to know about it, just turn on your Fritz / Rybka / Houdini.

Even practicing K+Q vs K has some value. For example:

 

 

Qg7+, Qa7, Ke6, Qg4

CJKWA

Estragon and wafflemaster are spot on.

Studying illustrative and useful endgame positions, including even the seemingly impossible or impractical positions, teaches one how to coordinate pieces harmoniously and how to most effectively control the board to follow through with a plan and achieve a desired goal.

Its amazing how understanding good basic endgame techniques transfers skill to opening and middlegame play. And how even a little understanding of endgame basics can win drawn endgames and save lost ones.

DrCheckevertim
Marcokim wrote:
waffllemaster wrote:
billyblatt wrote:

Maybe that is how we should be learning chess: backwards. From the endgames towards the opening. Mastering a few pieces at a time, instead of jumping into the deep end.

Capablanca has you beat by about 100 years on that bit of advice

But Capa could only get into advantageous endgames because he played solid openings and middle games, and built a subtle positional advantage that the opponent only discovers too late - Karpov was a master of positional play as well... I think this quote from Capa was slightly overstated by journalists trying to get a catchy phrase... all aspects of the game are important

It wasn't overstated by journalists. Capablanca states it clearly in his books, and it makes perfect sense: Learn how the pieces work together, and you will have better chess vision.