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for the past half a year or so i have not found a chess teacher that i can click right.

Either most of them are rude, obnoxious money hungry. Even the good ones are expensive.

Trust me i have tried almost every grandmaster coach on icc. And let me tell you i cant click with them.

Idk why but i feel the need to hire a grandmaster coach, i just dont feel confortable with other titled player.

Its because i had a bad experience with one chess coach. Are there any recommendations which titled player i should go.

I mean grandmasters are grandmasters they have the in depth experience to guide you in your lesson.

Not as much as a. IM FM CM or any other master rated player would teach you.

windmill64

Grandmasters are going to generally cost a lot more so no surprise there. Chemistry can be difficult to find, but are you giving it a chance with each coach, like a month with several lessons?

Coach-Bill

Well, my video lessons program is free on YouTube. I have the 3rd largest group on chess.com in 27 months, and am unofficially the top selling coach on chess.com, so I must be doing something right. NM's make great teachers, Dan Heisman for one. He's one of the top chess coaches in America and has his own TV show here...My background is education, I gave up being a school teacher to teach chess full time.


anyway, if you would like to have me as a teacher for free, at least on YouTube, (Private I must charge), join my video lessons group here: http://www.chess.com/groups/join?id=14246

 

My videos teach you to think as I do.  I have them sorted by playlist. Useful is my video lessons program which shows you how to maximize your time. I also have over 200 member game analysis videos which will improve all facets of your play.

Thanks for your time.

Returnofcookiemonster

windmill64 wrote:

Grandmasters are going to generally cost a lot more so no surprise there. Chemistry can be difficult to find, but are you giving it a chance with each coach, like a month with several lessons?

hello yes ive given coaches chances, its usually based on personality. i had coaches give a poor lesson didnt really recommend much during the lesson. There was one coach who had potential but when i tried to message him through skype he was constantly busy. training students. which seemed rude because maybe cause i needed to ask him a question or the fact he did not send the homework right. There was an international master that i took 2 lessons, he was good at 1st but all he did was recommend me his own opening repetoire which i was not comfortable with, even when he recommended me his opening repetoire. He did not cover some lines that was thrown at me. So i would have to analyze them with him. Its not that im picky i can tell if a coach is worth my time or Not, based on personality or there coaching style. 30 to 40 dollars isnt expensive really, since i do have a job and all.

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returnofxpchesser wrote:Its not that im picky i can tell if a coach is worth my time or Not, based on personality or there coaching style. 30 to 40 dollars isnt expensive really, since i do have a job and all.

You are being picky. There are 37 GMs listed on the ICC Teachers website, if you don´t like the lessons from any of them, it´s not the teachers fault.

Returnofcookiemonster

aww-rats wrote:

Well, my video lessons program is free on YouTube. I have the 3rd largest group on chess.com in 27 months, and am unofficially the top selling coach on chess.com, so I must be doing something right. NM's make great teachers, Dan Heisman for one. He's one of the top chess coaches in America and has his own TV show here...My background is education, I gave up being a school teacher to teach chess full time.


anyway, if you would like to have me as a teacher for free, at least on YouTube, (Private I must charge), join my video lessons group here: http://www.chess.com/groups/join?id=14246

 

My videos teach you to think as I do.  I have them sorted by playlist. Useful is my video lessons program which shows you how to maximize your time. I also have over 200 member game analysis videos which will improve all facets of your play.

Thanks for your time.

thank you for the recommendation. but im sad to say is that i bought courses id teaching me to think plan calculate, strategize and endgame theory. His name is igor smirnoff. But a chess coach would give me that oomph im wanting help guide me in the right direction thoroughly. so my question to you is what sets u apart from a higher rated titled player than you. how would a national master such as urself benefit me.

ppandachess
returnofxpchesser wrote:

for the past half a year or so i have not found a chess teacher that i can click right.

 

Either most of them are rude, obnoxious money hungry. Even the good ones are expensive.

 

Trust me i have tried almost every grandmaster coach on icc. And let me tell you i cant click with them.

Idk why but i feel the need to hire a grandmaster coach, i just dont feel confortable with other titled player.

Its because i had a bad experience with one chess coach. Are there any recommendations which titled player i should go.

I mean grandmasters are grandmasters they have the in depth experience to guide you in your lesson.

 

Not as much as a. IM FM CM or any other master rated player would teach you.

Hi,

I think that titled players are always expensive :( and unless you know them and how they work, you will not get a lot from their lessons...

http://chess-teacher.com/1632.html

Returnofcookiemonster

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returnofxpchesser wrote:Its not that im picky i can tell if a coach is worth my time or Not, based on personality or there coaching style. 30 to 40 dollars isnt expensive really, since i do have a job and all.

You are being picky. There are 37 GMs listed on the ICC Teachers website, if you don´t like the lessons from any of them, it´s not the teachers fault.

there are some odd grandmasters i know of in icc, most of them are high priced some are not. yea its good to be picky because of cost, then again would you want a grandmaster teacher to teach u well and give u some overall good lessons? Heck if i would i did pay for the highest priced coach like akobian. and go with the flow. But i have to settle within my budget.

windmill64

I see there are coaches here on Chess.com have you tried some of them? $30-$40/hour lesson might not be expensive for you but they would be for me and many others I'm sure.

Returnofcookiemonster

tthechesstitan wrote:

returnofxpchesser wrote:

for the past half a year or so i have not found a chess teacher that i can click right.

 

Either most of them are rude, obnoxious money hungry. Even the good ones are expensive.

 

Trust me i have tried almost every grandmaster coach on icc. And let me tell you i cant click with them.

Idk why but i feel the need to hire a grandmaster coach, i just dont feel confortable with other titled player.

Its because i had a bad experience with one chess coach. Are there any recommendations which titled player i should go.

I mean grandmasters are grandmasters they have the in depth experience to guide you in your lesson.

 

Not as much as a. IM FM CM or any other master rated player would teach you.

Hi,

I think that titled players are always expensive :( and unless you know them and how they work, you will not get a lot from their lessons...

http://chess-teacher.com/1632.html

what do u guys consider expensive anyway? most titled players that u mentioned charge usually 10 to 30 bucks an hour. which is cheap considering if a person can afford it. btw thanks for the link ive got the goods anyways.

Returnofcookiemonster

windmill64 wrote:

I see there are coaches here on Chess.com have you tried some of them? $30-$40/hour lesson might not be expensive for you but they would be for me and many others I'm sure.

well like i said before and ill say it again u might be able to afford a teacher if your well equipped with a job.

ChezBoy

returnofxpchesser wrote:

aww-rats wrote:

Well, my video lessons program is free on YouTube. I have the 3rd largest group on chess.com in 27 months, and am unofficially the top selling coach on chess.com, so I must be doing something right. NM's make great teachers, Dan Heisman for one. He's one of the top chess coaches in America and has his own TV show here...My background is education, I gave up being a school teacher to teach chess full time.

anyway, if you would like to have me as a teacher for free, at least on YouTube, (Private I must charge), join my video lessons group here: http://www.chess.com/groups/join?id=14246

 

My videos teach you to think as I do.  I have them sorted by playlist. Useful is my video lessons program which shows you how to maximize your time. I also have over 200 member game analysis videos which will improve all facets of your play.

Thanks for your time.

thank you for the recommendation.

but im sad to say is that i bought courses id teaching me to think plan calculate, strategize and endgame theory. His name is igor smirnoff.

But a chess coach would give me that oomph im wanting help guide me in the right direction thoroughly.

so my question to you is what sets u apart from a higher rated titled player than you. how would a national master such as urself benefit me.

Do you know who is arguably the best chess coach in the world? IM Silman or Pandolfini. They are both excellent coaches. Your mistake is that you're picky (sorry but it's true), you're slightly rude (see your message to aww-rats questioning his skill and basically asking him if he's good enough for you), and you have the wrong belief that GMs are the best coaches. This assertion is completely false. It's a matter of teaching. Not everyone can be a teacher....Some of the smartest people in the world who have taught weren't very good. Why, many reasons...personality, flexibility, etc. I'm not saying all GMs are bad coaches...in fact, many are wonderful, I'm just saying that the best coach is one that is flexible, listens to your ideas, and is informative. Best of luck, and show some respect towards ALL titled players. It takes something special to become one.

-ChezBoy

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There´s a possibility that you don´t listen to your teachers during your lessons.

You are going to keep playing at the same level if you want to keep all the ideas that you have about chess (the good ones and the bad ones).

Returnofcookiemonster

SocialPanda wrote:

There´s a possibility that you don´t listen to your teachers during your lessons.

You are going to keep playing at the same level if you want to keep all the ideas that you have about chess (the good ones and the bad ones).

let me ask u something my dear friend not to be rude nor obnoxious have u had a coach have u experienced training with a coach. with my personal experiences i have. But like i mentioned before. i do pay attention to my coaches actually. But how come it sucks when u listen to your coach gives you a recommended line. But you still lose, not because i lost in bad play but lost because he didnt support the variation he didnt give u correctly?

Returnofcookiemonster

ChezBoy wrote:

returnofxpchesser wrote:

aww-rats wrote:

Well, my video lessons program is free on YouTube. I have the 3rd largest group on chess.com in 27 months, and am unofficially the top selling coach on chess.com, so I must be doing something right. NM's make great teachers, Dan Heisman for one. He's one of the top chess coaches in America and has his own TV show here...My background is education, I gave up being a school teacher to teach chess full time.

anyway, if you would like to have me as a teacher for free, at least on YouTube, (Private I must charge), join my video lessons group here: http://www.chess.com/groups/join?id=14246

 

My videos teach you to think as I do.  I have them sorted by playlist. Useful is my video lessons program which shows you how to maximize your time. I also have over 200 member game analysis videos which will improve all facets of your play.

Thanks for your time.

thank you for the recommendation.

but im sad to say is that i bought courses id teaching me to think plan calculate, strategize and endgame theory. His name is igor smirnoff.

But a chess coach would give me that oomph im wanting help guide me in the right direction thoroughly.

so my question to you is what sets u apart from a higher rated titled player than you. how would a national master such as urself benefit me.

Do you know who is arguably the best chess coach in the world? IM Silman or Pandolfini. They are both excellent coaches. Your mistake is that you're picky (sorry but it's true), you're slightly rude (see your message to aww-rats questioning his skill and basically asking him if he's good enough for you), and you have the wrong belief that GMs are the best coaches. This assertion is completely false. It's a matter of teaching. Not everyone can be a teacher....Some of the smartest people in the world who have taught weren't very good. Why, many reasons...personality, flexibility, etc. I'm not saying all GMs are bad coaches...in fact, many are wonderful, I'm just saying that the best coach is one that is flexible, listens to your ideas, and is informative. Best of luck, and show some respect towards ALL titled players. It takes something special to become one.

-ChezBoy

lol good one, let me ask u this. jeremy silman for instance. yea sure he is a good teacher based on the books he wrote especially for beginners or club players. but what u forgot to mention is that why in some of the books jerry silman discusses, he leaves certain positions out. For instance his endgame book, why doesnt he cover queenless games. which do transition into endgame most of the time. If you want to argue with me on that subject i suggest u take it up with igor smirnov about it. in his endgame course he even states that with queens off the board is practically an endgame there on out. Even though he is a grandmaster giving out that lecture.

ChezBoy

That's not my point.......

Returnofcookiemonster

ChezBoy wrote:

That's not my point.......

ok so whats ur point then?

ChezBoy

Give other titled players a chance and respect. Focus on their style and flexability, not their rating....

Returnofcookiemonster

ChezBoy wrote:

Give other titled players a chance and respect. Focus on their style and flexability, not their rating....

ok as of right now what titled player should i go with FM CM NM LM IM? and explain to me through each of the categories how they would teach based on a players rating.

kleelof

I've tried a few coaches and I've come to the conclusion that most of them, and I suspect most strong chess players, don't really know why they are strong.

They know a lot of 'book' stuff; positional play, openings, end games, strategies and tactics. But they cannot really tell you how this stuff is coming together in their heads or how you can utilize it the way they did. Even Magnus Carlsen(as far as I've seen) has never been able to give any solid ideas about how he is able to do what he can do.

Therefore, they seem to just feed you the same 'book' stuff they learned thinking that is what you need.

I think if you want to find a good teacher, you should find one that has written some of their own material BASED ON THEIR OWN THINKING TECHNIQUES or at least a unique interpertation of the thinking techniques of stronger players.