i have not found a chess teacher

I've tried a few coaches and I've come to the conclusion that most of them, and I suspect most strong chess players, don't really know why they are strong.

They know a lot of 'book' stuff; positional play, openings, end games, strategies and tactics. But they cannot really tell you how this stuff is coming together in their heads or how you can utilize it the way they did. Even Magnus Carlsen(as far as I've seen) has never been able to give any solid ideas about how he is able to do what he can do.

Therefore, they seem to just feed you the same 'book' stuff they learned thinking that is what you need.

I think if you want to find a good teacher, you should find one that has written some of their own material BASED ON THEIR OWN THINKING TECHNIQUES or at least a unique interpertation of the thinking techniques of stronger players.

ALso, I would like to say it may not be a good idea to limit your self to GM's. Your rating is low enough that if you can find any good teacher with a title, you will learn enough to progress.

what coaches have you tried, ill do the same. i have agree, but i think its complicated. for what magnus carlsen has to say based on his thought process because he knows so much variation, that he would have to break it down what he says little by little. But its based on his intuition as a player, from what i heard its basically he is making logical moves which could be simple to them but for you and i? i can be complicated, just look over nakamoras games on chess.com he has this instinct of what he plans to do.

returnofxpchesser wrote:

ChezBoy wrote:

Give other titled players a chance and respect. Focus on their style and flexability, not their rating....

ok as of right now what titled player should i go with FM CM NM LM IM?

and explain to me through each of the categories how they would teach based on a players rating.

I don't know what style you're looking for and it really depends on your learning style (ex: visual, audio...etc.)

You have to find a coach that can TEACH. Many of the titled players can play great chess, but don't have any teaching ability. I have had a coach now for about a year and my USCF rating has gone up 400 points. He is a rated expert, almost 2200, and a GREAT teacher!

but i think its complicated. 

Ah, kleelof, true - I think the can of worms has indeed been opened  In my case, along with a great coach, I also am dedicated to studying 2 hours in the morning and 2 hours at night. I don't think my progress has much to do with talent, but a determination to really learn the game. How far will I go? As far as my limited talent will take me along with self-discipline of study. I don't need to have a title to be happy, I just love the game and want to be the best I can.

kleelof wrote:

returnofxpchesser wrote:

kleelof wrote:

I've tried a few coaches and I've come to the conclusion that most of them, and I suspect most strong chess players, don't really know why they are strong.

They know a lot of 'book' stuff; positional play, openings, end games, strategies and tactics. But they cannot really tell you how this stuff is coming together in their heads or how you can utilize it the way they did. Even Magnus Carlsen(as far as I've seen) has never been able to give any solid ideas about how he is able to do what he can do.

Therefore, they seem to just feed you the same 'book' stuff they learned thinking that is what you need.

I think if you want to find a good teacher, you should find one that has written some of their own material BASED ON THEIR OWN THINKING TECHNIQUES or at least a unique interpertation of the thinking techniques of stronger players.

but i think its complicated. 

I think you were right above to question Aww-rats like you did. This is the approach you should take with any potential coach.

I am a software developer. I have had people approach me in this manner. It is a little annoying, but that is more of an ego issue. In the end though, they are shelling out some major cash for their projects and deserve to be reassured that I am the right person for the job.

A chess coach is no different. If they cannot give you adequate reasons why they are the coach you should choose, then move on until you find one who is willing to answer your questions.

I agree you have the right to question a coaches credentials, however, there is a respectful way to do so and I don't feel he did so respectfully. I'm starting to sound like his mother so I'll stop :).

kleelof wrote:

returnofxpchesser wrote:

kleelof wrote:

I've tried a few coaches and I've come to the conclusion that most of them, and I suspect most strong chess players, don't really know why they are strong.

They know a lot of 'book' stuff; positional play, openings, end games, strategies and tactics. But they cannot really tell you how this stuff is coming together in their heads or how you can utilize it the way they did. Even Magnus Carlsen(as far as I've seen) has never been able to give any solid ideas about how he is able to do what he can do.

Therefore, they seem to just feed you the same 'book' stuff they learned thinking that is what you need.

I think if you want to find a good teacher, you should find one that has written some of their own material BASED ON THEIR OWN THINKING TECHNIQUES or at least a unique interpertation of the thinking techniques of stronger players.

but i think its complicated. 

I think you were right above to question Aww-rats like you did. This is the approach you should take with any potential coach.

I am a software developer. I have had people approach me in this manner. It is a little annoying, but that is more of an ego issue. In the end though, they are shelling out some major cash for their projects and deserve to be reassured that I am the right person for the job.

A chess coach is no different. If they cannot give you adequate reasons why they are the coach you should choose, then move on until you find one who is willing to answer your questions.

I agree you have the right to question a coaches credentials, however, there is a respectful way to do so and I don't feel he did so respectfully. I'm starting to sound like his mother so I'll stop :).

returns ofxpchesser I thought I already did in my first post

Ask for some names of students he has taught that you can talk to. If he refuses, cross his name out.

for the past half a year or so i have not found a chess teacher that i can click right.

Either most of them are rude, obnoxious money hungry. Even the good ones are expensive.

Trust me i have tried almost every grandmaster coach on icc. And let me tell you i cant click with them.

Idk why but i feel the need to hire a grandmaster coach, i just dont feel confortable with other titled player.

Its because i had a bad experience with one chess coach. Are there any recommendations which titled player i should go.

I mean grandmasters are grandmasters they have the in depth experience to guide you in your lesson.

Not as much as a. IM FM CM or any other master rated player would teach you.

for the past half a year or so i have not found a chess teacher that i can click right.

Either most of them are rude, obnoxious money hungry. Even the good ones are expensive.

Trust me i have tried almost every grandmaster coach on icc. And let me tell you i cant click with them.

Idk why but i feel the need to hire a grandmaster coach, i just dont feel confortable with other titled player.

Its because i had a bad experience with one chess coach. Are there any recommendations which titled player i should go.

I mean grandmasters are grandmasters they have the in depth experience to guide you in your lesson.

Not as much as a. IM FM CM or any other master rated player would teach you.

I went from 998 to 1424 and am still climbing. And please don't be rude as I didn't know what answer you were looking for. I am trying to help you. I belong to a strong chess club and we have IM's NM's and experts and some of them teach and I went through the process of interviewing several of them and finally picked my current coach.

You're only 1300. What makes you think that you need GMs to teach you chess? I think you're just being much too picky with your coaches

You're only 1300. What makes you think that you need GMs to teach you chess? I think you're just being much too picky with your coaches

I interviewed students of several of the coaches, talked to each coach about their methods of teaching, availability, etc, and chose my present coach.