Identify this game? Help please

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Avatar of rooperi

OK, my OCD is kicking in... I have a game in my database, and I don't know who the players are, or when it was played. For some reason the ratings of the players are there.. No matter how I sort the database, the ??? for the player names (or the date) always puts it right at the top, and it's driving me nuts. I suppose I could just delete it, but I need closure. Also, I suspect the game is not complete. Help please!

Avatar of BennyBrownshoes

Player 2 almost has to be Topalov.  I don't think Kasparov would play the Sicilian like that.

Quick search on 2666 suggests a 2006 game vs Vallejo-Pons.  Might want to research from there, to see if the game matches up with those names.

Edit: no match.  But that was an era Toppy had a 2804 rating.  So maybe look closer at 2006.  Good luck w/the search.

Avatar of rooperi

Thanks, I'll have a look....

Avatar of David_Spencer

If I'm not mistaken, only five players have been 2800 or higher - Carlsen, Anand, Kramnik, Topalov, and Kasparov. Looking on the FIDE ratings site, the only players of those five to reach exactly 2804 were Kasparov in January 2005 and Topalov in April 2006. http://ratings.fide.com/id.phtml?event=4100018

If you look at the FIDE list for 2005 ( http://ratings.fide.com/toparc.phtml?cod=73 ), you find that there were no players rated 2666. This means Kasparov can't have played a 2666 when he was 2804. If this was a FIDE game, we must be looking at a Topalov game. The list for April 2006 ( http://ratings.fide.com/toparc.phtml?cod=93 ) has two players rated 2666: Viktor Bologan and Francisco Vallejo-Pons.

Chessgames.com has no Bologan vs Topalov games with Bologan as White, but there are eleven Vallejo-Pons vs Topalov games. Four of them are from 2006. Two were a QGD and a third was a Najdorf, but when they played at "XIX Ciudad de Leon" it was a Kan with White winning in 20 moves. Here's your game:

http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1418848

EDIT: And I've been beaten to the punch. Oh well...

Avatar of orangehonda
SirDavid wrote:

If I'm not mistaken, only five players have been 2800 or higher - Carlsen, Anand, Kramnik, Topalov, and Kasparov. Looking on the FIDE ratings site, the only players of those five to reach exactly 2804 were Kasparov in January 2005 and Topalov in April 2006. http://ratings.fide.com/id.phtml?event=4100018

If you look at the FIDE list for 2005 ( http://ratings.fide.com/toparc.phtml?cod=73 ), you find that there were no players rated 2666. This means Kasparov can't have played a 2666 when he was 2804. If this was a FIDE game, we must be looking at a Topalov game. The list for April 2006 ( http://ratings.fide.com/toparc.phtml?cod=93 ) has two players rated 2666: Viktor Bologan and Francisco Vallejo-Pons.

Chessgames.com has no Bologan vs Topalov games with Bologan as White, but there are eleven Vallejo-Pons vs Topalov games. Four of them are from 2006. Two were a QGD and a third was a Najdorf, but when they played at "XIX Ciudad de Leon" it was a Kan with White winning in 20 moves. Here's your game:

http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1418848


That's some impressive sleuthing Smile

Avatar of Crazychessplaya

The only players to achieve 2800+ were Kasparov, Kramnik, Anand, Topalov and Carlsen. No such game in chessgames.com. Could the rating be USCF?

Avatar of Crazychessplaya

The game is mistakenly identified as B54 ECO code, it is in fact B43.

Avatar of rooperi

Wow, thanx everybody....

Avatar of David_Spencer
orangehonda wrote:
SirDavid wrote:

If I'm not mistaken, only five players have been 2800 or higher - Carlsen, Anand, Kramnik, Topalov, and Kasparov. Looking on the FIDE ratings site, the only players of those five to reach exactly 2804 were Kasparov in January 2005 and Topalov in April 2006. http://ratings.fide.com/id.phtml?event=4100018

If you look at the FIDE list for 2005 ( http://ratings.fide.com/toparc.phtml?cod=73 ), you find that there were no players rated 2666. This means Kasparov can't have played a 2666 when he was 2804. If this was a FIDE game, we must be looking at a Topalov game. The list for April 2006 ( http://ratings.fide.com/toparc.phtml?cod=93 ) has two players rated 2666: Viktor Bologan and Francisco Vallejo-Pons.

Chessgames.com has no Bologan vs Topalov games with Bologan as White, but there are eleven Vallejo-Pons vs Topalov games. Four of them are from 2006. Two were a QGD and a third was a Najdorf, but when they played at "XIX Ciudad de Leon" it was a Kan with White winning in 20 moves. Here's your game:

http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1418848


That's some impressive sleuthing


I don't know what I would do without Google! Tongue out

Avatar of trysts

Why not 14. ...RxN????? Confusing.

Avatar of orangehonda
trysts wrote:

Why not 14. ...RxN????? Confusing.


Evidently Topa had already won this match, and this game "didn't matter" so he was being funny I guess.

Avatar of mottsauce

agree with notlesu

Avatar of rooperi

Ok, now does anybody know how to edit headers in SCID?

Avatar of trysts
orangehonda wrote:
trysts wrote:

Why not 14. ...RxN????? Confusing.


Evidently Topa had already won this match, and this game "didn't matter" so he was being funny I guess.


So an "odds game"?Laughing

Avatar of dkmare

no so odd so which players are prepared to play the verasov attack...

Avatar of clinttherakam

Then again black does have an upper hand with the pawn nearly to promoting....