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If Fischer would played Karpov for the World Champion, who would win?
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If Fischer was in his "normal" top state of mind, would have won, but closely.
HaveAnotherGame kirjoitti:
About Fischer and his Title Run: I do not really understand how this statement comes about: Taimanov was a weak GM, Larsen was Sick, Petrosian was old, and Spassky was out of it in the 72 Match.
How it happened, that just Fischer emerged with such luck!
If you think Petrosian was too old to play good chess in 71 how do you explain that he has an even record against both Kasparov and Karpov ?
Karpov would, Fischer is dead...
if fischer wasn't scared
then why did he not play
lots of people don't like fide
what did fide do? did he act mean to people?
who names their kid FIDE anyway
that is like a like a dog's name FIDO
I personally think he didn't cared enough anymore to bother. He had nothing left to prove. He toppled the indomitable Soviet chess juggernaut by himself, amid collusion. He had far more to lose than gain. All of the pressure to prove he was the greatest was on his shoulders and Karpov might have well been his kryptonite but, it would have been interesting to say the least.
I think comparing Fischer and Karpov to Petrosian and Spassky might give us the best clue we could hope for but, styles make fights. Who knows... ?
Did any of you people actually read what I said. Everyone seems to think I don't appreciate Fischer and his opponents weren't that strong and so therefore he must not be strong. If you must know, this is what I was doing:
Myth: Fischer's Title Run was weak
My goal was to disprove that statement that came from SOMEBODY ELSE.
Evidence Number 1: Taimanov was a weak Grandmaster.
I don't believe that statement simnply because Taimanov was a CANDIDATE for the title himself.
Myth: Fischer's Title Run was weak
My goal was to disprove that statement that came from SOMEBODY ELSE.
Evidence Number 2: Larsen was sick.
To me that sounds somewhat pathetic. I firmly believe a strong, in his peak Bent Larsen would have good chances against anyone especially Fischer. He also said it was the weather. But everyone knows that Larsen was a Fischer dis-dainter. So how trustworthy is that statement? That's up to you.
Myth: Fischer's Title Run was weak
My goal was to disprove that statement that came from SOMEBODY ELSE.
Evidence Number 3: Petrosian was too old.
I don't know who came up with that one but I can tell you this one is definitely wrong. The reason I can tell you that is because at this time he was 43 in this world championship cycle. But remember he was a candidate for every cylce 1953, 1956, 1959, 1962, 1971, 1974, 1977 and 1980. And in 1980, he was 55!!! So if he did it at 55, everyone knows he could do it at 43.
Conclusion: The statement "Fischer wasn't playing strong opponents." is FALSE because, Taimanov was a strong enough candidate for the title himself, Larsen seemed to dislike Fischer so his statements are extremely biased, and Petrosian was in fact a strong player because he was a candidate at a much later date.
Petrosian also won the USSR chmp in 1975 and had an equal record against both Kasparov and Karpov . People who think Karpov and/or Kasparov were stronger than Fischer need to explain why neither of them could best Petrosian , a man that Fischer demolished in 1971 .
Reb wrote:
People who think Karpov and/or Kasparov were stronger than Fischer need to explain why neither of them could best Petrosian , a man that Fischer demolished in 1971 .
As you well know, Kasparov never lost against Petrosian after 1981, when he was 18 years old, and won the games he played against him after that, the last one the year he turned 20. Fischer had 1-3 against Petrosian up until the 1970s, by the way.
I understand Kasparov wasnt yet in his prime when he was losing to Petrosian . However , Petrosian also wasnt in his prime when he was losing to Kasparov and Petrosian died in 1984 . Kasparov and Petrosian only played 5 games with Petrosian being black in all of them .
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Larsen was weird.
He really wasn't super strong against players his own rating. Which sounds silly, right?) But he quite deadly versus players below his rating.
I guess because he drew them less.
Taimanov was weak? O_O He'd still crush you and any of us effortlessly at 88.
I never said he was weak. I was referring to what others said about the oponents fischer faced in his title run.