If White has 2 Qs and 4 passed pawns, Black has a K and a pawn, but doesn't resign, who is stalling?

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MARattigan
Thadriel wrote:
blueemu wrote:
Thadriel wrote:
blueemu wrote:

Multiple Queens makes a draw MORE likely (via stalemate), not LESS likely.

So yes, the person queening Pawn after Pawn is just dicking around instead of trying to win.

So what's the person doing when they're down four passed pawn, two queens and a knight, if not dicking around?

I'll change my mind if any of you can show me one game in the history of competitive, Elo rated chess where players rated above 1500 kept playing when down two queens, four passed pawns and a knight. I suspect it's never happened, but you show me a real Elo game where it happened and I'll be convinced you are right.

You seem to be of the opinion that "If THEY dick around, my only option is to dick around".

How about "If THEY dick around, MATE them"?

If I cared about winning and losing that much, sure. But I resign even when I'm about to win on time if I felt my opponent outplayed me, so "sticking it to them" by mating them has little value to me.

FIDE laws of chess 2023 (here).

1.4 The objective of each player is to place the opponent’s king ‘under attack’ in such a way that the opponent has no legal move.

What game are you playing?

Steve97a
I am the Stalemate King. Fear the Stalemate King!
QathetMike
Steve97a wrote:
I am the Stalemate King. Fear the Stalemate King!

Eric Rosen says " What?'

MADARA0322
Thadriel wrote:

Shouldn't the person with the single pawn not know that and thus choose to resign?

there are some people under some coaches who won't let their students resign games you know.

Thadriel
BigChessplayer665 wrote:

Think of it like this if you don't resign when your loosing your giving your giving full right for your opponent to do whatever they want as long as it isn't 1.running down the clock 2.writing mean stuff in chat 3.spamming draw offers

If yourlossing the only one who will resign will be you unless your opponent has to do with or is super nice (or thinks they are losing ) or their phone crashes or wifi

Thank you. If the game is insurmountable and you don’t resign, you deserve watching them queen every pawn.

Thadriel
MADARA0322 wrote:
Thadriel wrote:

Shouldn't the person with the single pawn not know that and thus choose to resign?

there are some people under some coaches who won't let their students resign games you know.

Understandable for training purposes. This is chess.com though.

Thadriel
MARattigan wrote:
Thadriel wrote:
blueemu wrote:
Thadriel wrote:
blueemu wrote:

Multiple Queens makes a draw MORE likely (via stalemate), not LESS likely.

So yes, the person queening Pawn after Pawn is just dicking around instead of trying to win.

So what's the person doing when they're down four passed pawn, two queens and a knight, if not dicking around?

I'll change my mind if any of you can show me one game in the history of competitive, Elo rated chess where players rated above 1500 kept playing when down two queens, four passed pawns and a knight. I suspect it's never happened, but you show me a real Elo game where it happened and I'll be convinced you are right.

You seem to be of the opinion that "If THEY dick around, my only option is to dick around".

How about "If THEY dick around, MATE them"?

If I cared about winning and losing that much, sure. But I resign even when I'm about to win on time if I felt my opponent outplayed me, so "sticking it to them" by mating them has little value to me.

FIDE laws of chess 2023 (here).

1.4 The objective of each player is to place the opponent’s king ‘under attack’ in such a way that the opponent has no legal move.

What game are you playing?

What are you referring to? Me resigning when I felt I deserved to lose but will win on time? Or me getting more queens?

It’s fun to get lots of queens. I play chess to have fun. No one is forcing the losing opponent to keep playing. They can resign. If they don’t, I’ll keep having fun, get a few queens, and align them in the shape of a starship or a smiley face before checkmating my opponent.

werddog
BigChessplayer665 wrote:

Think of it like this if you don't resign when your loosing your giving your giving full right for your opponent to do whatever they want as long as it isn't 1.running down the clock 2.writing mean stuff in chat 3.spamming draw offers

If yourlossing the only one who will resign will be you unless your opponent has to do with or is super nice (or thinks they are losing ) or their phone crashes or wifi

wrong grammar,wrong spelling

Puzzler888

In my opinion the only way to be rude is to actually run your clock down instead of resigning or playing on. If one side wants to make a bunch of queens (or bishops) cause it's funny and the other side doesn't resign, that's completely fine. But as soon as one side stops playing and runs their clock down that is not ok.

onlyC6

The nr.1 rule of chess is to checkmate your opponent. So not playing for mate is just strange and shows bad understanding of the game.

RubberSoul54
I second the above comment.
KoolKittens
Not resigning can be good sometimes. One time my opponent stalemated me with two queens, probably less common in higher elos tho
AgileElephants

Well, that happens sometimes, I suppose. One player refuses to resign a hopelessly lost position, then his or her opponent, in retaliation, starts trolling by promoting to a gazillion Queens (or other pieces). Then after the game is finished, both make a thread on chess.com accusing each other of bad sportsmanship.

Thadriel
AgileElephants wrote:

Well, that happens sometimes, I suppose. One player refuses to resign a hopelessly lost position, then his or her opponent, in retaliation, starts trolling by promoting to a gazillion Queens (or other pieces). Then after the game is finished, both make a thread on chess.com accusing each other of bad sportsmanship.

Lol he made a thread too?

RubberSoul54
I agree wholeheartedly with Noemi05.
capareloaded
Thadriel escribió:
blueemu wrote:

Multiple Queens makes a draw MORE likely (via stalemate), not LESS likely.

So yes, the person queening Pawn after Pawn is just dicking around instead of trying to win.

So what's the person doing when they're down four passed pawn, two queens and a knight, if not dicking around?

I'll change my mind if any of you can show me one game in the history of competitive, Elo rated chess where players rated above 1500 kept playing when down two queens, four passed pawns and a knight. I suspect it's never happened, but you show me a real Elo game where it happened and I'll be convinced you are right.

Even if it happens in 0.00001% of the games the other player is still hoping to do so

BigChessplayer665
capareloaded wrote:
Thadriel escribió:
blueemu wrote:

Multiple Queens makes a draw MORE likely (via stalemate), not LESS likely.

So yes, the person queening Pawn after Pawn is just dicking around instead of trying to win.

So what's the person doing when they're down four passed pawn, two queens and a knight, if not dicking around?

I'll change my mind if any of you can show me one game in the history of competitive, Elo rated chess where players rated above 1500 kept playing when down two queens, four passed pawns and a knight. I suspect it's never happened, but you show me a real Elo game where it happened and I'll be convinced you are right.

Even if it happens in 0.00001% of the games the other player is still hoping to do so

Tbh otb competitive is different than online you need more humor with your moves online

ParisSpider
Dude if you move your king again and again it will draw and if you put the pawn to next the queen queen take pawn and king move same place 3 time is a 3 fold repetition