At some point you have to agree to disagree and move forward. More time spent on this debate, which can never be “won” equals less time playing chess. Unfollowing and moving on.
If you don’t accept at least one rematch after you win, then you lose.
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Holy_Crusaderr wrote:
Yes
well youre probably in the minority. Ive RARELY ever played a game where people are just moving their pieces, not trying to capture mine, or trying at all in any way. If thats what you're doing then I cant really say anything, you're not trying to win or care about winning or losing at all. What im saying doesnt apply to you then
Aggresively moving King
Non-stop spams the forums about sportsmanship, pride and competitiveness and yet he goes and trolls multiple rated games and ruins the experience for others and wastes their time.
Who wants to deal with such a person?
Pulpofeira wrote:
youreacoward69 escribió:
Holy_Crusaderr wrote:
nTzT wrote:
No, they don't fear you. They just don't care about you, they don't think about you. They just click and go on to the next game and probably don't ever even notice you sent a rematch request. You are completely mental.
That´s what I do like I just don´t care about the opponent I just want to play chess in peace.
Whats not peaceful about a rematch unless they're being abusive? They move the pieces on a digital chessboard aggressively?
Yet, according to you, this can be frightening to certain people.
thats my point. It's only a big deal to people who irrationally become shook
Well usually people have a rational reason for being ¨shook¨
nTzT wrote:
Non-stop spams the forums about sportsmanship, pride and competitiveness and yet he goes and trolls multiple rated games and ruins the experience for others and wastes their time.
Who wants to deal with such a person?
As I said before, Im living in egypt where the internet cuts out frequently. All I can do is restart the router and keep going. If I wanted to keep my rating low, why is it 500 points higher in a few days?
Grow a backbone. I am not buying your poor excuse were your internet randomly cut out at exactly 2-3 moves in.
Walk away a bit from the pyramids.
Is it always 2-3 moves?
Pulpofeira wrote:
Walk away a bit from the pyramids.
Mkayluh wrote:
Dude, normal human beings (which is us, not you) have the ability to decide IF we want a rematch or not based on our mood, feelings, situation in the real world if we have other things planned or not. Some people play to win, some play to improve, some do both, many other reasons. Complain to Chess Support and convince them to remove the 'New Game' button and keep the 'Rematch' button. Sounds like that's what you really want.
I never said those who are not playing again have anything to do with this. It's still a purely psychological decision to decline, all other things being equal, thus, psychological motivators can be attributed to said decision. And yes, I'm clearly highly abnormal. Better be careful with that dehumanizing "us and them" talk, dont you know, that's how atrocities start.
This atrocity has gone through +400 posts!
lul
nTzT wrote:
Grow a backbone. I am not buying your poor excuse were your internet randomly cut out at exactly 2-3 moves in.
You don't have to, your theory is debunked by the fact that my rating has increased by the hundreds in a few days. If my wish were to do that, why wouldn't I keep doing that? Have you lived here? Do you have any experience with internet service in Cairo?
Yeah, normally people don't troll 5 games in a row and then spam the forums about their pride, dignity and competitiveness. Mordant irony.
Optimissed wrote:
youreacoward69 wrote:
nTzT wrote:
Non-stop spams the forums about sportsmanship, pride and competitiveness and yet he goes and trolls multiple rated games and ruins the experience for others and wastes their time.
Who wants to deal with such a person?
As I said before, Im living in egypt where the internet cuts out frequently. All I can do is restart the router and keep going. If I wanted to keep my rating low, why is it 500 points higher in a few days?
It's quite surprising that you're still connected for a rematch. Something about this doesn't ring true.
What? What are you even talking about? Where is there even a shred of evidence that when the internet is cut, im playing the same opponent in a full game?
youreacoward69 wrote:
TeacherOfPain wrote:
I accept rematches to stronger and weaker players, I don't care I win or lose, as it is just a game in the end of the day. You play to have fun, and some days you have the will to win, but most days in truth I don't, I just play from my intuitive nature and let the rest of my game speak for itself.
Chess is a fun game, but it is important to realize it is just a game, no need to be prideful over the game, just play another game to have a rematch with another person. I am sure they will be glad for it and you give them another chance to show you a "real game".
Besides you can't really tell who is the better opponent by 1 game anyways. The minimum sample size you can do is 3 games, since there is 2 even games and 1 odd. However in truth it takes about 20+ games to see if you are better than another opponent and 100+ games to consider a rivarly/determine an accurate percentage of wins/losses.
With this said if you want to give a rematch, good. If not, it is not the end of the world, as the game is free to play and is fun. Once you get past the beginning stages of the game and become a solid club player like a 1400,1500,1600,1700 or 1800 then you recognize that's all you need. You don't need to reach to many greater heights, therefore you don't need to care for doing too many rematches, just enjoy the flow and see where the game takes you.
Therefore with saying this enjoy the rematches, and if there is none then that's ok, there are plenty of other people who would be just as willing to play, and then you can repeat the process all over again. There is no need to get stuck in one game, such as the same reasoning can be said there is no need to devote your time to only 1 activity in your life.
If anyone is reading this or cares to read it, I have made my point.
Peace,
TOP
yes I agree with this. My only point is: what's the big deal accepting a rematch? Not saying people have to, just that there's no harm or practical reason not to. The only difference is the psychological factor, the motivator of the decision to consciously decline a rematch. I am simply stating that there are inferences you can make about people to constantly decline them if they were going to play a "new player" again anyway.
I guess it just dpeends on the person. I don't see any problem with accepting a rematch or giving a rematch to someone who previously lost. If a person doesn't accept my rematch I assume they just don't want to play with me. And likewise if they give me a rematch and I accept it means I just want to keep playing for the fun of it.
However there is no hard feelings and usually I don't dwell on them accepting or declining the rematch as it doesn't really matter. As again there are so many people I can face, and the chancces of me meeting a person that I beaten or someone who beaten me are very slim, so there is no need to care. Besides it is just a game, sometimes player's overanalyze a situation as to why players give a rematch or do not give a rematch in all reality it is not that deep.
If someone gives a rematch they want to keep playing, if someone doens't they just don't want to and that is their decision and because of this I leave it at that. There is more worthwhile things to do then wonder on such a "small decision", that is why I feel there i no need to ponder on it.
I rather ponder on how to develop a skill or analyze my game then worry about the opponent. Or even better, do somethnig that have value in the real world, so with this said it is just all a matter of perspective, like most things in life.
TeacherOfPain wrote:
youreacoward69 wrote:
TeacherOfPain wrote:
I accept rematches to stronger and weaker players, I don't care I win or lose, as it is just a game in the end of the day. You play to have fun, and some days you have the will to win, but most days in truth I don't, I just play from my intuitive nature and let the rest of my game speak for itself.
Chess is a fun game, but it is important to realize it is just a game, no need to be prideful over the game, just play another game to have a rematch with another person. I am sure they will be glad for it and you give them another chance to show you a "real game".
Besides you can't really tell who is the better opponent by 1 game anyways. The minimum sample size you can do is 3 games, since there is 2 even games and 1 odd. However in truth it takes about 20+ games to see if you are better than another opponent and 100+ games to consider a rivarly/determine an accurate percentage of wins/losses.
With this said if you want to give a rematch, good. If not, it is not the end of the world, as the game is free to play and is fun. Once you get past the beginning stages of the game and become a solid club player like a 1400,1500,1600,1700 or 1800 then you recognize that's all you need. You don't need to reach to many greater heights, therefore you don't need to care for doing too many rematches, just enjoy the flow and see where the game takes you.
Therefore with saying this enjoy the rematches, and if there is none then that's ok, there are plenty of other people who would be just as willing to play, and then you can repeat the process all over again. There is no need to get stuck in one game, such as the same reasoning can be said there is no need to devote your time to only 1 activity in your life.
If anyone is reading this or cares to read it, I have made my point.
Peace,
TOP
yes I agree with this. My only point is: what's the big deal accepting a rematch? Not saying people have to, just that there's no harm or practical reason not to. The only difference is the psychological factor, the motivator of the decision to consciously decline a rematch. I am simply stating that there are inferences you can make about people to constantly decline them if they were going to play a "new player" again anyway.
I guess it just dpeends on the person. I don't see any problem with accepting a rematch or giving a rematch to someone who previously lost. If a person doesn't accept my rematch I assume they just don't want to play with me. And likewise if they give me a rematch and I accept it means I just want to keep playing for the fun of it.
However there is no hard feelings and usually I don't dwell on them accepting or declining the rematch as it doesn't really matter. As again there are so many people I can face, and the chancces of me meeting a person that I beaten or someone who beaten me are very slim, so there is no need to care. Besides it is just a game, sometimes player's overanalyze a situation as to why players give a rematch or do not give a rematch in all reality it is not that deep.
If someone gives a rematch they want to keep playing, if someone doens't they just don't want to and that is their decision and because of this I leave it at that. There is more worthwhile things to do then wonder on such a "small decision", that is why I feel there i no need to ponder on it.
I rather ponder on how to develop a skill or analyze my game then worry about the opponent. Or even better, do somethnig that have value in the real world, so with this said it is just all a matter of perspective, like most things in life.
Im not making any declarative statements about "all." I just think there's something strange about people who are so opposed to rematches, and that it must be traced to psychological phenomena. Plus, I never started this thread, nor any other thread. I'm only standing on the shoulders of giants.
No, they don't fear you. They just don't care about you, they don't think about you. They just click and go on to the next game and probably don't ever even notice you sent a rematch request. You are completely mental.
That´s what I do like I just don´t care about the opponent I just want to play chess in peace.
Whats not peaceful about a rematch unless they're being abusive? They move the pieces on a digital chessboard aggressively?
Yet, according to you, this can be frightening to certain people.