If You're A Chess Player, You're Probably Smarter Than Others. Is this, TRUE?

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people here think like pre-schoolers. 

chess doesnt force you to be smart, as in principle, anyone intelligent enough to learn the rules (a very low bar) can play, but they are plenty of things going on
.statistically, people are more likely to keep doing something they are half proficient at, and chess ability is correlated to constellation of traits related to it (functional memory, long term memory, concentration etc). You cant for example, have a high iq if your concentration is very bad. There's a minimal threshold .

add a minimal level of chess ability beyond the causal level and the pruning based on iq starts picking up steam. 

if you understand what "Average" mean, you understand, you can make both the median and mean higher by artificially removing the lower tail of distribution and chess, especially when played well does that.  Get a bell curve, and remove most people on the lower tail, and the average increases substantially without there being more geniuses added.

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THECHESSMAN_78 
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and I guessed it this was made by a 400!

What a guess, you may be much smarter than most people think you are. : )))

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GorgeousMale wrote:

infestationPit wrote:

Magnus Carlsen, the God of Chess, has infinite intelligence. 

Let's be honest: If Carlsen, or any of the top GM's, were very smart at all - they wouldn't have spent so much time on Chess knowing that life is short and none of us are going to live forever. There's nothing special or admirable about someone who threw their life away on a meaningless pursuit. The greatest minds in history created something, left some indelible mark on society, helped others to an extreme extent, etc. They didn't sit in a time scramble for 128 moves trying to win some kid's pawn. 

They ARE smart. It’s just that they have a passion for chess.

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"If you measure a fish inteligence by his abilities to climb trees, the fish will always be stupid."

 

I'm pretty sure your highschool folks are better than you in many other things. Does that make them smarter than you?

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zes0460 wrote:

this is not an english class, no one cares if it is their or his/her.. why did it have to take pages? we already understand what it means.. oh but it is too important to feel "right".. right? stop spamming the thread, already reported

what are you talking about

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George1st wrote:

THECHESSMAN_78 
#127
and I guessed it this was made by a 400!

What a guess, you may be much smarter than most people think you are. : )))

no what I was saying was many low rated players over estimate themselves or think if they play chess their somehow smarter.

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THECHESSMAN_78 wrote:
zes0460 wrote:

this is not an english class, no one cares if it is their or his/her.. why did it have to take pages? we already understand what it means.. oh but it is too important to feel "right".. right? stop spamming the thread, already reported

what are you talking about

what are you talking about

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THECHESSMAN_78 wrote:
zes0460 wrote:

this is not an english class, no one cares if it is their or his/her.. why did it have to take pages? we already understand what it means.. oh but it is too important to feel "right".. right? stop spamming the thread, already reported

what are you talking about

He’s talking about my pathetic spamming. I used correct grammar, and was corrected for doing so.

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llama47 wrote:

If you're the type of person who would enjoy chess in the first place then you're probably pretty analytical and competitive... this means you'll appear smart to some people (whether you play chess or not).

Playing chess, itself, has very little to do with intelligence, particularly at ratings above, IDK, 1200 or something. Chess is a skill like anything else. You don't look at a very good piano player and think "they're smart." If they're very good they're probably not an idiot, they're also probably not a genius. They're just someone who has put a lot of work into practicing piano. It's the same for chess... so this is another point. A person who is organized and focused enough to improve day after day will also appear intelligent to some people.

And notice I said others may see you as intelligent... that doesn't always work the other way around. If you see others as "stupid" that's a personality flaw more than anything.

Totally agree with you, every word!

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tranhuyhung 
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llama47 wrote:If you're the type of person who would enjoy chess in the first place then you're probably pretty analytical and competitive... this means you'll appear smart to some people (whether you play chess or not).

Playing chess, itself, has very little to do with intelligence, particularly at ratings above, IDK, 1200 or something. Chess is a skill like anything else. You don't look at a very good piano player and think "they're smart." If they're very good they're probably not an idiot, they're also probably not a genius. They're just someone who has put a lot of work into practicing piano. It's the same for chess... so this is another point. A person who is organized and focused enough to improve day after day will also appear intelligent to some people.

And notice I said others may see you as intelligent... that doesn't always work the other way around. If you see others as "stupid" that's a personality flaw more than anything.
Totally agree with you, every word!
 Stupid can also be lack of intellect because of parents were stupid, or could have been just born like that. Who knows.

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I'm definitely not smart enough. Just look at my ranking...lol

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Low rating means you need more practice and training. Too many others factors can make your rating suffer. Bad health, stress, etc.

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Untrue

Playing chess means you play chess - well or badly just indicates whether you are good at chess.

We are all good at something but none of things make us better or valuable than being good at other things.

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I like both above comments, to the point and make sense. : )))

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Hmmmmmmm

 

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No. I think I'm smarter than other people for different reasons than, "I play chess"

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Patzer, you weren't back then and just by your remark you still aren't.

Keep thinking buddy. : )))

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George1st wrote:

If You're A Chess Player, You're Probably Smarter Than Others. Read below and see if this happens to you.

Bumping into people you used to associate with or people from school?

Do you

1. Think wow were they always that stupid?

2. Wow was I always that much smarter than them?

3. Maybe I'm a genius?

4. Maybe I have opened more than 20% of my brain left and right, is this possible?

5. Nope, never happened, in fact the total opposite?

          

 

senpai... you are so smart...., I dont think playing chess makes you smart because look at me, i have been playing for one year, *blushes*

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mikekelcey wrote:

Untrue

Playing chess means you play chess - well or badly just indicates whether you are good at chess.

We are all good at something but none of things make us better or valuable than being good at other things.

Health also has a meaning. If your head is going to be hardly hit your vision CAN shake and that can make analyzing a challenge.