In your opinion , when can you say "I know how to play chess"

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ESP-918

In your own opinion, understanding, when you or someone should say "I know how to play chess" !?

Some people think it's ok to say when you know how the pieces move, others more humble think you must have at least 1000 rating to say that, others think even if you are an Expert level , they say I know how to play just a little bit.

So what do you think , when is it OK to say I know how to play chess.

fieryball5
In fairness, when you know how to move the pieces. What you are saying is that people below a given level, whatever that level, do not know how to play chess. If that were true then only the people rated as grand masters know how to play. It is ideas like this that keep millions out of playing the game.
fieryball5
You can play whe you understand and or implement a strategy. It may work it may not. But you have spent time deciding on it. It might just be two moves, it might be fifteen moves ahead who cares. You thought it out. As I said above. Anybody who sits down to their first game knows how to play. They just don't know as much as a GM YET.
ESP-918

fieryball5 wrote:

In fairness, when you know how to move the pieces. What you are saying is that people below a given level, whatever that level, do not know how to play chess. If that were true then only the people rated as grand masters know how to play. It is ideas like this that keep millions out of playing the game.

Well kind of true, but not exactly.

When you know how to play any sports, games you must AT LEAST know the rules of it before you say I know how to play ! UNFORTUNATELY many people don't even know an en passont

fieryball5
My theory still stands. At that point they have not learned all of the moves you can make. You need to remember that there is a mountain of information out there and that it is impossible for a person ok now everything about a subject. I bet GMs have the same problem. When they lose it is because, realistically, they have not seen a play and worked out what was going to happen in say ten moves time. Otherwise they would not lose. Every game would draw. So even the best will be learning.
Federal_romzy

fieryball5 wrote:

You can play whe you understand and or implement a strategy. It may work it may not. But you have spent time deciding on it. It might just be two moves, it might be fifteen moves ahead who cares. You thought it out. As I said above. Anybody who sits down to their first game knows how to play. They just don't know as much as a GM YET.

good point

ESP-918

What about not knowing the all the rules, such as en passant, castling etc doest it still means you know how to play?

bobo-perdido

play chess don' t forget it s not studies is not war     

is just two human sharing a moment  meeting by playing chess

of course more you play more you can appreciate the new suttle of the game more and more complex and fascinating

and as the gm you can't never say ok i know because every game is different so your vision is always changing  when u think i know u can learn and see new things

life is a dream between two mystery

just play and enjoy it

ilikewindmills
If you're capable of playing a game to the end (win or lose), then you know how to play chess.
Wazinator

I think that someone can say they know how to play chess when you know how all of the pieces move and know en passont as well as castling. They also need to know how to set up the board.

Forkedupagain

 If someone asks me if I know how to play chess? I say yes. However I don't believe you "know how" to play chess until your rated about 2,000.

KeSetoKaiba

This is an interesting thought, philosophically - where the obvious answer is after the player learns "the rules." However, I think the answer is a lot deeper and more insightful than this. The question gets at when you know how to "play" chess. Let's be careful not to get the fallacy of equivocation here; "play" could mean "know the rules" or "when the player has reached an 'acceptable' level of play." If this forum is describing the latter (I think it is), then the " acceptable" and desired level is up to the player, where they "feel" comfortable at this level of play.

The analytical player will say that lower rated players do not see all of the themes, patterns, and actions at play, but what level reveals understanding? Perhaps a milestone rating such as 1500, or 2000, is a better try - but even this is inadequate. Super GMs such as Magnus Carlsen may believe a level higher than most players is required, as GMs commonly see what "chess players" do not. In the same way, a 2000 player feels that they understand a lot more than a 1000 player. However, the amount required for understanding is more up to the player, as many players are not interested in reaching a "high" level, only playing for fun.

Perhaps this strict definition for "play" actually is never met. Everyone makes mistakes, and computer-like chess is arguably not really chess either. "Play" is a bit too far undefined to accurately answer, based on solely the wording given.

hitthepin
You know how to play when you’re playing with a plan.
hitthepin
Still don’t know how to play well yet. 😓
bobo-perdido

play it s when you enjoy the game with an other human

that s all

when it s fun chess game work

 

godsofhell1235

After you know the rules you know how to play.

When people mention ratings what they actually mean is:

"You need to be rated ____ to play chess near my level"

or 

"You need to be rated ____ before I personally respect you"

MetalRatel

Having taught many beginner classes, to know castling, promotion, en passant, and stalemate (so very common!) goes a long way. happy.png

 

godsofhell1235

Seriously, check for this any time you hear someone say something like "tactics can get you to ____ level, but to actually play chess you need all the other stuff"

That level in the blank? It's almost always within 100 points of the person talking.

A pretty new player will pick a rating above them... a 1200 may say 1300s are when you know all the basics.

Masters and people like Carlsen will demand you're at least 2100, or one of the top 10 players in the world before you know how to play wink.png

Wharton223
I think I would take exception to the idea of knowing rules constitutes “play” or not knowing. The rule books of any sport are often unknown by the player and have to be referred to for clarification - football, golf, basketball. Many of these players don’t know the obscure rules, but still play the game. I think in order to be able to say you play chess has more to do with how often you play. 1 game 5 years ago doesn’t constitute play.
jdroli1070

I have been playing on this site for 2 1/2 years now (estimate), and quite frankly, of the 300 or so games I've played, maybe 2 didn't know what the heck they were doing, i.e. it's safe to say that just about everyone here knows how to play chess!