❌INCREMENT❌ in blitz chess has to go ! Seriously !

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HolographWars

Increment is only for patzers who don't know time management. It shouldn't go through.

SmyslovFan

@CoffeeAnd420, I had a conversation with several experienced coaches and USCF TDs today about this. It is possible for someone to get a +2200 rating and a master's title by playing only fast chess only G/45 time controls. But nobody I have spoken to, including some very high profile coaches and TDs, knows of a single instance of a person doing this.

 

So please, send us the information. Please name a single player who earned a USCF NM title playing exclusively games that with G/60 or faster time controls.  

SmyslovFan
CoffeeAnd420 wrote:
.... We have titled players (NM's) who have never played a game with 60 minutes on the clock. Think about that.

Just for the record. 

Judeplay6000
Chess is really hard for me it fucking my life guys
SmyslovFan

No, @Coffeeand420, what you said isn't totally true. Unless of course you can find the names of the NMs who did as you claim.  It's like that line from Dumb and Dumber: "So you're saying there's a chance."

Judeplay6000
U right Dumbass
SmyslovFan
CoffeeAnd420 wrote:
... Yes - I personally know of NM's who have never played one USCF game with 60+ minutes on the clock.

 

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As you said yourself, either it's true or it's not true. If it's true and you can name someone you know of, personally or otherwise, who earned a NM title playing only fast standard chess, I'd love to learn about him or her. Nobody I have spoken to, including tournament organizers and coaches, knows of anyone who has done as you claim. 

 

As I said, it's possible. I'd love to learn.

Preggo_Basashi
SmyslovFan wrote:

Please name a single player who earned a USCF NM title playing exclusively games that with G/60 or faster time controls.  

Forgot his name. An NM young adult who played in CA who used to post here. I looked him up on USCF. 100s of tournaments all G/30 +5 or +10 or whatever the dual rated TC they often use down there.

Ok, was it exclusively those TCs? Probably not exclusively, but I'd bet a 10 to 1 ratio.

breaker90
CoffeeAnd420 wrote:
SmyslovFan wrote:
CoffeeAnd420 wrote:
... Yes - I personally know of NM's who have never played one USCF game with 60+ minutes on the clock.

 

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As you said yourself, either it's true or it's not true. If it's true and you can name someone you know of, personally or otherwise, who earned a NM title playing only fast standard chess, I'd love to learn about him or her. Nobody I have spoken to, including tournament organizers and coaches, knows of anyone who has done as you claim. 

 

As I said, it's possible. I'd love to learn.

 

Again, I'm not going to waste time arguing about this with a stubborn old man. Enjoy your night. You did learn something, though: You now know that the USCF absolutely would allow someone to gain a title by playing nothing but speed chess. That you did not know but learned as a result of my posting. That's a fact and it's right here for the whole world to see. You just refuse to tell us how you feel about it.

Don't go making up claims if you can't back them up. If you know of NMs, go ahead and give us their USCF IDs.

And to let you know, the USCF doesn't "promote" delay time controls over increment time controls. That's up to the discretion of the tournament organizer. If there are four or more rounds in one day, many organizers prefer delay because it is easier to predict when rounds end. With increment, games can go very long. You see increment time controls with  tournaments that have two rounds a day such as the National Open that is starting now. Unfortunately the CCA, a large organization in US Chess, stubbornly prefers delay time control. But no, it's not a USCF directive.

SeniorPatzer

"Boom, Old Man Patzer. Hanging above 1300 playing 2+1 bullet. You can't even play this accurately in correspondence chess. 31 acl over 28 moves w/ 43.6 secs left on my clock when my opponent ran away."

 

That was simply a beautiful win, fully justifying all your self-accolades.  I am in awe of your chess prowess.  

Preggo_Basashi

Here's two 3/0 games I played a few hours ago.

I didn't try to manipulate it into something objectively bad but good in speed games. These are all moves I would have seriously considered in a tournament game.

 

 

Here's one where I play poorly but turn it around due to opponent's poor endgame play (an then he ran out of time)

 

HolographWars

All my friends and I agree on one thing-Increment shouldn't go, but it is for patzers who can't manage their time. And besides, in my first blitz tournament, I lost all my games 0-10 because in half of those games, my opponent was up a piece, has two seconds left, and played on increment and checkmated me with a king and queen.

Preggo_Basashi
HolographWars wrote:

All my friends and I agree on one thing-Increment shouldn't go, but it is for patzers who can't manage their time. And besides, in my first blitz tournament, I lost all my games 0-10 because in half of those games, my opponent was up a piece, has two seconds left, and played on increment and checkmated me with a king and queen.

If your opponent has a winning position, and can play all the way to mate only on increment, then they were crushing you, and you deserve to lose 100%.

HolographWars

I don't think so exactly. I would think that if they are that low on time, and I have thirty seconds more than my opponent, I think they would deserve to lose due to poor time management!

HolographWars

I 80% agree with ESP 918.

Preggo_Basashi

If their position is easy enough to win on increment, then their time management was fine... like... by definition.

Preggo_Basashi

It's easy to not play with increment... just don't.

I don't play with it either by the way. I play 3/0 for example.

HolographWars

I thought for some reason tc was 5/0 but it was actually 3/2

Preggo_Basashi
SmyslovFan wrote:

So please, send us the information. Please name a single player who earned a USCF NM title playing exclusively games that with G/60 or faster time controls.  

Now I remember him.

Again, maybe not exclusively, but a very high ratio IIRC.

 

USCF ID 13377996:
MATTHEW J O'BRIEN

Chess.com @petrosianic

HolographWars

I am not the only one...My friends also say the same thing, and they are much more successful at blitz than me