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Is 1.e4 for heros and 1.d4 for cowards? elaborate.

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Sunofthemorninglight

gimme an "S", gimme an "i", gimme a "c"

who's got the pom-poms ?

royalbishop
Scottrf wrote:

Complaining about the Sicilian is like complaining about d4 Nf6, it's just the first move...

???? Must be talking about another thread.

Looking at 1 e4 c5 all the time is boring. vs 1 d4 ...., 1 Nf3 ...., 1 c4..... as with them you get a varation of it as you start playing against stronger players on Black. You mix boring with fear or whatever you trying to say.

I play e4 depending on my opponent(s). I am stronger with it than d4 in games. Always looking to have fun in which i look for some new lines when i visit threads on e4 openings. Found a couple but nothing  new i try against a strong player.

Scottrf

Why must it be another thread? I'm just saying being bored because 2 moves are the same is a bit silly.

royalbishop
Scottrf wrote:

Why must it be another thread? I'm just saying being bored because 2 moves are the same is a bit silly.

"2 moves" .... I said the Sicilian. Are you reading the same thread here?

We play for fun and variety. Playing against the Sicilian i would say becomes less boring against a 2100+ player. In Vote Chess 1 e4 is anything but boring if the play the Sicilian or not.

If i want a chance of not seeing the Sicilian it I will not get it as i go up the ranks unless one creates a Thematic game with rank against a strong player included.

I think you just having a bad day and want to have at with a topic.


 

Scottrf

""2 moves" .... I said the Sicilian."

What's your distinction? 2 moves, 2 half moves, whatever, my point is the games don't have to be the same.

ankit121222

i think both are good in their own tracks but personally i prefer 1. e4

Sunofthemorninglight

1 a3 is booooooring!  lol

plutonia

1.d4 is not for cowards...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

but 1.b3 is :P

MissTobyillustrious

PF, I think you mean e3. Pretty soon - yes. 1. d4, 2. f4, 3. knight f3, 4. e3 Then castle 2 moves later. Is that called 'stonewall attack'..?

dervich

It´s funny people saying they think 1.d4 is boring, so they play 1.e4 and usually get slaughtered by a sicilian or a french!

And if they get a 1...e5 anwser they avoid the spanish (yes, because it´s "boring"!) and play an italian until the draw comes in, only dreaming about the positions they see in the XIX century games.

It´s not much to do whether if you are a hero or not, it´s much more to do with the understanding of the game:

Usually a higher understanding is more relationated with 1.d4 games, unless a player ranks FM level or higher, in that case he might choose a 1.e4 game, not to win on tatics, but to get a more direct line to an advantage endgame he knows best.

Rasparovov
shepi13 wrote:
 

Just about every line of the semi-slav is as sharp as the ruy lopez, a very positional opening.

 

Well, in my opinion all mainline d4 openings are more tactical than main line e4 openings.

Problem is beginners who don't know the mainlines think d4 is passive:

 
 





in the last example Nxd5 is not a blunder. Qf3+ is faced with Ke6 and from what I know that position holds a slight advantage for black.

royalbishop
dervich wrote:

It´s funny people saying they think 1.d4 is boring, so they play 1.e4 and usually get slaughtered by a sicilian or a french!

And if they get a 1...e5 anwser they avoid the spanish (yes, because it´s "boring"!) and play an italian until the draw comes in, only dreaming about the positions they see in the XIX century games.

It´s not much to do whether if you are a hero or not, it´s much more to do with the understanding of the game:

Usually a higher understanding is more relationated with 1.d4 games, unless a player ranks FM level or higher, in that case he might choose a 1.e4 game, not to win on tatics, but to get a more direct line to an advantage endgame he knows best.

If you say Sicilain again Scottrf for sure will say you will not get slaughtered by the Sicilian and it is only 2 moves. Sicilian, Sicilian, Sicilian .... ok did not see him. He must be out their giving somebody a hard time today. Or campaigning for people to play chess and tell them the only first move they can make is 1 e4. Laughing


 

Sunofthemorninglight

it's gotta be "Sicilian ftw!!!" 

Scottrf

"If you say Sicilain again Scottrf for sure will say you will not get slaughtered by the Sicilian and it is only 2 moves. Sicilian, Sicilian, Sicilian .... ok did not see him. He must be out their giving somebody a hard time today. Or campaigning for people to play chess and tell them the only first move they can make is 1 e4. Laughing"

Just because you don't understand what I said doesn't mean this interpretation is anything like accurate.

And there's no need to take things personally, I just made a comment.

AlcherTheMovie

More of these threads, please.

royalbishop

dervich wrote

It´s funny people saying they think 1.d4 is boring, so they play 1.e4 and usually get slaughtered by a sicilian or a french!

And if they get a 1...e5 anwser they avoid the spanish (yes, because it´s "boring"!) and play an italian until the draw comes in, only dreaming about the positions they see in the XIX century games.

It´s not much to do whether if you are a hero or not, it´s much more to do with the understanding of the game:

Usually a higher understanding is more relationated with 1.d4 games, unless a player ranks FM level or higher, in that case he might choose a 1.e4 game, not to win on tatics, but to get a more direct line to an advantage endgame he knows best

 

  .....hey i told you he come. I should have bet you something.

AlcherTheMovie
royalbishop wrote:
Scottrf wrote:

Why must it be another thread? I'm just saying being bored because 2 moves are the same is a bit silly.

"2 moves" .... I said the Sicilian. Are you reading the same thread here?

 


 

I checked the most recent databases, publications, and chess related materials. I even contacted my grade school arithmethic teacher. We made an experiment to prove it. I set a chessboard in front of her class and she made the moves : 1.e4 then the move 1...c5

She asked, "Children, how many times did I move a chess piece?"

24 out of 24 students gave this answer: 2 moves.

But I'm still waiting for Kasparov's reply to my email that I sent him just to be sure.

Sred

Please don't forget about total wimps like me who play 1.Nf3 or 1.c4.

didiz1016
royalbishop wrote:

dervich wrote

It´s funny people saying they think 1.d4 is boring, so they play 1.e4 and usually get slaughtered by a sicilian or a french!

And if they get a 1...e5 anwser they avoid the spanish (yes, because it´s "boring"!) and play an italian until the draw comes in, only dreaming about the positions they see in the XIX century games.

It´s not much to do whether if you are a hero or not, it´s much more to do with the understanding of the game:

Usually a higher understanding is more relationated with 1.d4 games, unless a player ranks FM level or higher, in that case he might choose a 1.e4 game, not to win on tatics, but to get a more direct line to an advantage endgame he knows best

 

  .....hey i told you he come. I should have bet you something.


I have preperation for the French and the Sicilian

ForgoneMoose

1. e4 is for heroes. 2. Qh5 is for Heroes. 1. Nf3 is for veritable chess gods