Is basketball a sport or a game?

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Ziryab wrote:

Or, is this simplistic question a distraction?

Can a game be a sport? Are all sports games? Although it lacks the physical demands of athletics, are there ways that chess exhibits the essence of what we call sports?

pretty much every single "is chess a sport?" thread devolves into one side saying "chess is a sport because some federation said so" and another side saying "chess isn't physically demanding, so it's not a sport by definition" with neither side coming to any sort of resolution.

But not all sports are games, no? Is running a game? I think we would call cross country a sport. Similarly, mountain biking is surely a sport, but we would not say that it's a game of any sort.

Most sports involve some sort of competition, whether against other people, or against yourself (but mostly the former). Chess surely exhibits this aspect. Sports also generally demand some sort of coordination between mind and body. A nice example would be esports. Although it may not appear physically straining, being able to coordinate what you see on screen and how you move your devices physically is an example of coordination. Lots of competitive players spend a lot of time training their aim for this purpose. I do not see chess exhibiting this sort of thing at all. Perhaps if you are playing online in a 3 minute game at longest, you will have to occasionally demonstrate a little bit of coordination. But hardly enough to make it competitive.

Another pattern you'll find in sports is that you will have bursts of speed. For example, if a midfielder lobs a nice pass to a striker and suddenly you have a chance on goal, after many minutes of passing to hold possession. In chess, this is quite backwards. The instances of nothing happening usually pass by quicker than when the instances when the game tenses up. Obviously, since you have to think more when critical positions appear.

Perhaps online speed chess can be called a sort of "sport". But generally besides the competitive nature of the game, chess doesn't really have much in common with other sports whatsoever.

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Abirdwithinternetyt wrote:

Also, I feel compelled to ask considering the fact that you seem to contradict a lot of things practically everyone posts here, is that what you are in forums to do?

he keeps hijacking many threads lol while it isn't a malicious intent it's extremely annoying and @long_quach i know you dont bother but it'd be nice if you could stop. somehow you manage to steer every topic to 'cHiNeSe CheSs' and in a span of 5 mins you've somehow jumped from basketball to goats to rambo III to chess. please stick to the topic or dont comment at all.

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Sport is a noun.

We forget that.

Physical sport.

Intellectual sport.

Chess is an intellectual sport.

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Miku712_a wrote:
Abirdwithinternetyt wrote:

Also, I feel compelled to ask considering the fact that you seem to contradict a lot of things practically everyone posts here, is that what you are in forums to do?

he keeps hijacking many threads lol while it isn't a malicious intent it's extremely annoying and @long_quach i know you dont bother but it'd be nice if you could stop. somehow you manage to steer every topic to 'cHiNeSe CheSs' and in a span of 5 mins you've somehow jumped from basketball to goats to rambo III to chess. please stick to the topic or dont comment at all.

You're too stupid to understand the explanation and metaphor.

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Miku712_a wrote:
you've somehow jumped from basketball to goats to rambo III to chess. please stick to the topic or dont comment at all.

You're too stupid to understand the explanation and metaphor.

Basket ball is a game of putting a ball into a basket, a literal basket to carry apples and oranges.

I don't make fun of such a simple concept as compared to chess, that very simple concept is in the game of putting the dead goat in the circle, which is in Rambo III.

Putting the dead goat in the circle is a war game, is chess.

That's why nobody could conquer Afghanistan.

Not Alexander the Great, The Mongols, the British Empire the Soviet Union, the USA, nobody.

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That's right.

Putting the dead goat in a circle

is why

Nobody could conquer Afghanistan.

That's what makes Stallone a great movie maker.

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Miku712_a wrote:

you've somehow jumped from basketball to . . . to chess. please stick to the topic or dont comment at all.

I didn't jump from basketball to chess.

These guys did.

While I'm at it.

Ice hockey to chess.

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A game can be a sport. Not all sports are games. Basketball is both. Chess is both.

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sport

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long_quach wrote:

That's right.

Putting the dead goat in a circle

is why

Nobody could conquer Afghanistan.

That's what makes Stallone a great movie maker.


Playing chess long enough, you think you're the King of the World. I play Western chess, Chinese chess, and Gomoku (tennis too).

I think I'm Serpentor.

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/fun-with-chess/who-are-you?page=5#comment-128126812

But even I know, I cannot conquer a nation that plays American football.

Check out

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long_quach wrote:
long_quach wrote:

That's right.

Putting the dead goat in a circle

is why

Nobody could conquer Afghanistan.

That's what makes Stallone a great movie maker.


Playing chess long enough, you think you're the King of the World. I play Western chess, Chinese chess, and Gomoku (tennis too).

I think I'm Serpentor.

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/fun-with-chess/who-are-you?page=5#comment-128126812

But even I know, I cannot conquer a nation that plays American football.

Check out

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lowkey I thought that video said brawl stars for some reason 😅

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Black Friday, the ultimate sport.

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Sport
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A neighbor is friends with the local hockey team and players. We went to a Chiefs game last year and I kept thinking - "This looks so familiar." About half wat through is suddenly realized that the Canadian team were running all of these tactical and strategic patterns - pawn chains, double attacks, king safety, etc.; that were just like those on the chess board. The Canadians won using superior game play. I mentioned it to the neighbor and a couple of the players later and they all thought about it and then chortled, mentioning that I had spotted something that should have been obvious to them as also being chess players.

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Ozzr wrote:

. . . that were just like those on the chess board. The Canadians won using superior game play.

Exactly.

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long_quach wrote:
Miku712_a wrote:
@long_quach somehow you manage to steer every topic to 'cHiNeSe CheSs' 

You're too stupid to understand the explanation and metaphor.

I bet it works the other way around too. An ice hockey player would recognize a Chinese chess board.

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Ozzr wrote:

"This looks so familiar."

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sport you DUM

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also ChessRook wrote this


"game because sports are games so basketball is a game"


i said this "no kidding Einstein" 😂😂😂

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Chess is kinda funny.

I make a move, then it's your turn. Then you make a move, then it's my turn.

That's not real life.

Then I walked into tennis!

I can't believe a game that was made for me.