no.
Unless you are shooting for World Champion.
Yes, if you don't give **** about money.
He didn't ask if chess were something a homeless person could do, he asked if it's a career lol.
Chess hustlers are actually way above the mean, the mean is ~5 dollars a year.
wow
@jrizzz97 there is no way. i know countless people rated above 2000 that can beat you. there is a 3 to 1 ratio, meaning that to beat that opponent you would have to be 2000+ as well. case closed.
The odds of 1600 beating 2000 is 1:10.
He could probably get a draw or win off me right now because I'm a bit out of it at the moment, but I don't mind playing. I tried challenging him already but I guess he's busy.
Most people have a greater chance of winning the lottery than making chess a career.
Honestly, for Chess being a career that seems terrifying, as you would have to spend all your time on Chess, and as for me I love Chess, however sometimes I can't be pulled too deep into something unless it feels like I can never get out.
For the majority of people, people see as Chess as a hobby or a game for relaxing. However doing it as a career is another level of dedication, time, and skill. Moreover for those who are professional, they get paid pretty scarcley with a anual salary of $34,000 and if you break it down that is about $1307 dollars bi weekly and $653.50 per week. So yes the pay is not the the greatest, however that is by tournaments and them playing Chess by itself, the real money making like said by @JamesColeman comes from coaching and stuff like that.
But as for monetary values this is not the route to go down, the reason someone would go for a chess career is for a title, and because of there devotion to the game and because they don't care too much about money, but if you want a higher paying job that is more stable, than Chess is not a good candidate to choose.
That applies only if you are not a top teir Grandmaster or International Master.
But to be honest it depends, it depends on your wants and how you feel, if you want to do it go for it, but just please be wary of the outcome.
I mean what do you mean by an honest career?
I said an actual career for the average professional but this is just an outline or an estimate. Some make more money, some make less, just depends on specific variables that can determine where you are in your actual Chess Career.
To be honest it depends on the person, their dedication, time, and skill. Let's just forget about monetary values and focus on how hard it is to become a GM, or IM it takes great skill and practice. (No dis. to the FM'S CM'S or NM'S in the chat.)
I mean before we talk about money I guess we really need to pinpoint the skills required to do it.
My guess is skill=money, so therefore saying that the better you are at the game the more money yu could potentially make. However again depends on the person, also depends on his popularity and impact on the game of Chess etc.
So it depends but if that is how I like to view it, at least from now on, skill equals money, and that is how you could potentially have a good chess career, both in fame and in monteray values, however if I were to be pro. I would only be interested in the money because of my needs, however I would like the game just because of the dedication, I wouldn't like the fame simply because I am not the type to want everyone in my business, I just like to keep myself private most of the time. But anyways that is s what I say, there could be other ways but I am not credited because I am no pro. the thing is we just base things off of statistics and estimations, then we can try to break it apart.
True I agree with what you said @long_quach, there is no way most people can create a chess career, and even if they make it, it is debatable whether it will be any good or profitable. With that said it is official, it is difficult as heck to make a chess career and again should be used as a hobby, sport, art, relaxation method or something else. But proffessional direclty would absolutley be a hard career to follow.
I recalled something humorous that fits in this topic.
Svidler and Jan were talking about how the grandmaster title is a perfectly fine goal for amateurs, but for people who are thinking about being professional, the title was always inevitable (because they got it when they were 13 years old, for example).
Firouzja was on at the time and they asked him what he thought, and he said he agreed.
So when I say you can be a strong amateur, I'm not even saying you can't be a GM (although, you know, look at the statistics) but a professional player is something much more rare.
Ok, but sure, as Coleman pointed out you can make money by coaching, writing books, that sort of thing.
I think the playing and coaching aspects have been covered. The other way to make "chess" a career is to start or work for a chess related business. You wouldn't be playing chess for money but that could still be a career.
If you truly love the game, you should go for it, may as well try to become a master, no matter what other people say. Just at the end of last year I was 1600 in blitz and thought I would never get good, now a few months later im 2300. I say you might as well try, and if not, still have fun playing the game.
Last year, I was 1000 fide, now I am 1650 fide.
For someone is very talented at the game, who can see the typical life of a chess player, and wants that, I think that yes chess is a good career.
What type of career in chess do you wish to pursue? Very few people can make a decent living playing chess. Just take a look at the numbers.
Coaching is another option. Here, your ability to play chess is somewhat secondary to your ability to teach and communicate; however, to have any credibility you still have to have a very good rating. If your students improve and are happy with your coaching, you can likely expand your base and do reasonably well.
If you have a talent for writing and chess, perhaps writing, co-writing chess articles or editing is a possibility? Possibly even books? Again, a certain level of chess ability is required; however, writing books or articles for beginners would be much different than writing books or articles for more advanced players. Again, the key ability here is to write clearly and to be entertaining.
Are you good with your hands? Making chess pieces and chess boards might be an option. Starting small, establishing a reputation and expanding based on word-of-mouth. Maybe even repairing, refurbishing older chess sets for clients? Buying, refurbishing, then reselling?
How about starting or investing in a hobby shop specializing in chess supplies and books for all levels of players? That's an option. Or, maybe just an online e-business platform? Or both?
Or . . . start your own website?
@jrizzz97 there is no way. i know countless people rated above 2000 that can beat you. there is a 3 to 1 ratio, meaning that to beat that opponent you would have to be 2000+ as well. case closed.
I don’t care what you are saying I did it on this app. GM’s can make blunders like anyone else. He probably underestimated me and that was his demise. Case open!
@jrizzz97 there is no way. i know countless people rated above 2000 that can beat you. there is a 3 to 1 ratio, meaning that to beat that opponent you would have to be 2000+ as well. case closed.
I don’t care what you are saying I did it on this app. GM’s can make blunders like anyone else. He probably underestimated me and that was his demise. Case open!
Yeah, strong players blunder and a weaker player can take advantage of it.
Still, if the player's ratings are stable, it doesn't discount the fact that wins against a much stronger player won't be common. Once that starts becoming common, your rating will increase enough that the expectation changes.
@jrizzz97 there is no way. i know countless people rated above 2000 that can beat you. there is a 3 to 1 ratio, meaning that to beat that opponent you would have to be 2000+ as well. case closed.