IS CHESS A SPORT????????? - Chess Forums - Page 3

AlCzervik

Aug 26, 2020

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#41

i guess lego building is also a sport.

Gunther-Ratsinburger

Aug 26, 2020

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#42

exactly Al

you know, i love going back to the beginnnings of riddles like this. we all know different people like their own definition of what constitutes a sport, because they were probably brought up on the idea, and they like quoting dictionaries that relay similar viewpoints to back up their stance.

but what was the original definition ?

for that, we ask Fred Flindtone, or .... what fragments of his definition have survived the meteorites, ufo attacks and continental drift and the crusades.

roll it there, Colette!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sport

Ziryab

Aug 26, 2020

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#43

gdzen wrote:

Actually, thinking is a physical activity but for your neurons. Your brain keeps changing its shape over years, like your muscles. A baby's brain and an adult's brain looks quite different. So thinking makes physical changes on your body..

If you play the violin, the part of your brain that controls your fingers will grow at the expense of other nearby parts.

lfPatriotGames

Aug 26, 2020

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#44

llama wrote:

Chess is similar enough to "sports" to be called a sport, IMO, because:

1) To become good requires systematic training over a long period of time.

2) To be your best you have to fix seemingly unrelated life issues. For example how disciplined are you in life in general? How healthy is your diet? How is your health overall? How do you react to adversity? Are you humble enough to forgive personal failure? Are you proud enough to believe your work will allow you to win? Are you reflective enough to find lessons even in your successes?

To be the best chess player you can be requires not only years of learning and practice, but requires self improvement in general.

That fact that you don't have to take a shower after playing always come off as a very childish and superficial objection. It's not only a shallow understanding of what chess is, and what sports are, but a shallow understanding of the English language in general.

That's my two cents on this recurring topic.

Those are things required to be good at sports, and chess. But sports require something else, that chess doesn't. Chess doesn't meet the threshold of sports because it lacks that one requirement.

Chess and sports may require stamina, dedication, a good diet, discipline, systemic training over a long period of time, the ability to deal with adversity, self improvement. They may both also require self confidence, creativity, and competitive desire.

Chess and sports may share all those things, but the one thing chess does not have that is required for a sport is physical skill. Not physical strength, not physical stamina, not physical speed. Physical skill. The ability to compete at the physical task using physical skill. Chess is a game of mental skill, not physical skill.

SujanShadrak

Aug 26, 2020

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#45

lfPatriotGames wrote:

llama wrote:

Chess is similar enough to "sports" to be called a sport, IMO, because:

1) To become good requires systematic training over a long period of time.

2) To be your best you have to fix seemingly unrelated life issues. For example how disciplined are you in life in general? How healthy is your diet? How is your health overall? How do you react to adversity? Are you humble enough to forgive personal failure? Are you proud enough to believe your work will allow you to win? Are you reflective enough to find lessons even in your successes?

To be the best chess player you can be requires not only years of learning and practice, but requires self improvement in general.

That fact that you don't have to take a shower after playing always come off as a very childish and superficial objection. It's not only a shallow understanding of what chess is, and what sports are, but a shallow understanding of the English language in general.

That's my two cents on this recurring topic.

Those are things required to be good at sports, and chess. But sports require something else, that chess doesn't. Chess doesn't meet the threshold of sports because it lacks that one requirement.

Chess and sports may require stamina, dedication, a good diet, discipline, systemic training over a long period of time, the ability to deal with adversity, self improvement. They may both also require self confidence, creativity, and competitive desire.

Chess and sports may share all those things, but the one thing chess does not have that is required for a sport is physical skill. Not physical strength, not physical stamina, not physical speed. Physical skill. The ability to compete at the physical task using physical skill. Chess is a game of mental skill, not physical skill.

I agree 100%

TeacherOfPain

Aug 26, 2020

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#46

Yes Chess is a Mental Sport.

The majority of people on earth wouldn't call it a sport sense it is not physical but who cares? I like it enough to keep playing and foruming!

So with that it is a mental sport and it is a good way to spend time as hobby and a short-termed skill, so it is very cool and I don't think it is a waste of time, however there are some other things that could be more productive, but just can't seem to get enough!

SujanShadrak

Aug 26, 2020

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#47

TeacherOfPain wrote:

Yes Chess is a Mental Sport.

The majority of people on earth wouldn't call it a sport sense it is not physical but who cares? I like it enough to keep playing and foruming!

So with that it is a mental sport and it is a good way to spend time as hobby and a short-termed skill, so it is very cool and I don't think it is a waste of time, however there are some other things that could be more productive, but just can't seem to get enough!

its a mental game not sport.

TeacherOfPain

Aug 26, 2020

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#48

@SujanShadrak

I guess so... Don't see much of a difference, it is for competition and it is somethng that works your mind, so why can't it be called a mental sport?

smnikita

Aug 26, 2020

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#49

Chess is sport.

TeacherOfPain

Aug 26, 2020

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#50

Ok Lol...

Gunther-Ratsinburger

Aug 26, 2020

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#51

lfPatriotGames wrote:

llama wrote:

Chess is similar enough to "sports" to be called a sport, IMO, because:

1) To become good requires systematic training over a long period of time.

2) To be your best you have to fix seemingly unrelated life issues. For example how disciplined are you in life in general? How healthy is your diet? How is your health overall? How do you react to adversity? Are you humble enough to forgive personal failure? Are you proud enough to believe your work will allow you to win? Are you reflective enough to find lessons even in your successes?

To be the best chess player you can be requires not only years of learning and practice, but requires self improvement in general.

That fact that you don't have to take a shower after playing always come off as a very childish and superficial objection. It's not only a shallow understanding of what chess is, and what sports are, but a shallow understanding of the English language in general.

That's my two cents on this recurring topic.

Those are things required to be good at sports, and chess. But sports require something else, that chess doesn't. Chess doesn't meet the threshold of sports because it lacks that one requirement.

Chess and sports may require stamina, dedication, a good diet, discipline, systemic training over a long period of time, the ability to deal with adversity, self improvement. They may both also require self confidence, creativity, and competitive desire.

Chess and sports may share all those things, but the one thing chess does not have that is required for a sport is physical skill. Not physical strength, not physical stamina, not physical speed. Physical skill. The ability to compete at the physical task using physical skill. Chess is a game of mental skill, not physical skill.

only one modern perspective.

Gunther-Ratsinburger

Aug 26, 2020

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#52

the original definition of sport doesn’t include the physical aspect.

sndeww

Aug 26, 2020

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#53

there's already a thread, this might get locked.

Gunther-Ratsinburger

Aug 26, 2020

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#54

no, that thread is totally trolled by IfPatriot who only understands one way to define sports.

lfPatriotGames

Aug 26, 2020

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#55

igotmange wrote:

no, that thread is totally trolled by IfPatriot who only understands one way to define sports.

Feel free to start your own thread, where you get to define sports anyway you like. Just think, if you feel like anything that involves a clock is a sport, you can call it a sport. Chess and getting out of bed to an alarm would be sports. Baseball and tennis sadly would not be.

You shouldn't be confined to pesky definition of words. You should be able to define words anyway you like, right? Like the word "no". We should be able to define that word as best suits us, right?

Gunther-Ratsinburger

Aug 26, 2020

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#56

no thanks, but Your “definition” of sport is not the only one, nor the original.

keep trolling.

lfPatriotGames

Aug 26, 2020

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#57

igotmange wrote:

the original definition of sport doesn’t include the physical aspect.

Then I suggest you start a new thread, titled "Was chess a sport". This thread is titled IS chess a sport. Meaning the current definition. Currently, chess is not a sport. If the definition of sport used to include things like chess and watching grass grow, great. That's awesome. Everything used to be a sport. But there is probably a good reason that definition is no longer in use.

Gunther-Ratsinburger

Aug 26, 2020

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#58

why should i ?

because you have decided this is your thread now ?

that is pure nasty trolling, deliberately avoiding the truth of the situation and harassing others.

SujanShadrak

Aug 26, 2020

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#59

theres a fight goin on

lfPatriotGames

Aug 26, 2020

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#60

igotmange wrote:

why should i ?

because you have decided this is your thread now ?

that is pure nasty trolling, deliberately avoiding the truth of the situation and harassing others.

Because you seem very concerned about alternative definitions of words. That's why. If you want to use different definitions, start your own thread. This is not my thread, nor do I get to make up definitions of words. If you feel harassed, again, start your own thread and keep me out.

The truth is very clear, the title of this topic is present tense. NOT past tense. If you want to explore if chess (or watching grass grow or competitive blinking) used to be sports, do it. Presently, chess is not a sport. Based on the definition of words that I have no control over. I didn't write the dictionary.