Is chess a sport or a game

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EternalChess

you guys are messed up..

soccer is a sport, get over yourself.

you must be an idiot if you think soccer aint a sport..

tonymtbird

serbian there are two other reasons soccer is not a sport the only one I will mention because i don't want to upset you too much is rule number 10 which is that if its not cool it can't be a sport and there is no more lame uncool activity then soccer BA-DOOP.  and keep in mind that's the one that won't upset you to much lol.

as for the projectile issue please take some martial arts classes then come back and try to have this conversation again.

EternalChess

Soccer aint cool? you need to stop doing drugs dude.

hazenfelts
tonymtbird wrote:

ONCE AGAIN SOCCER IS NOT A SPORT BECAUSE THERE IS NO (real use) OF HAND EYE CORDINATION IN SOCCER AND THAT IS ONE OF THE 10 RULES THAT MAKE A SPORT.


Even if I agreed with you, (which I don't) what about throw-ins, and what about the goalkeeper.  Both involve hand eye co-ordination. (the hands and arms are also an important part of balancing yourself to co-ordinate your feet as are your feet and legs for co-ordinating your hands). Whilst what your saying is rubbish your claim that anything that a girl can be good at cannot be classed as a sport is entirely sexist as no matter what you think that you are good at there are probably countless women better than you. 

Suggo
tonymtbird wrote:

serbian there are two other reasons soccer is not a sport the only one I will mention because i don't want to upset you too much is rule number 10 which is that if its not cool it can't be a sport and there is no more lame uncool activity then soccer BA-DOOP.  and keep in mind that's the one that won't upset you to much lol.

as for the projectile issue please take some martial arts classes then come back and try to have this conversation again.


Tony, you are embarrassing yourself on this projectile thing.  The throwing of a punch may be likened to when you throw a projectile, but your fist is not a projectile...sorry mate, there is no way around it. 

Going to have classes in martial arts or boxing isn't going to change anything.

hazenfelts
tonymtbird wrote:

serbian there are two other reasons soccer is not a sport the only one I will mention because i don't want to upset you too much is rule number 10 which is that if its not cool it can't be a sport and there is no more lame uncool activity then soccer BA-DOOP.  and keep in mind that's the one that won't upset you to much lol.

as for the projectile issue please take some martial arts classes then come back and try to have this conversation again.


In terms of world-wide popularity you're in the minority here

Chess_Lobster

You think you need to take martial arts classes to know what the definition of a projectile is???...how many TKO losses you got on your record? 

pimpskillz
tonymtbird wrote:
OBIT wrote:

This is always a fun argument when you are at a bar with some buddies and everyone has had a few drinks.  To give you my personal definition, for an activity to be considered a sport, it needs the following:

Either a concrete way to score points (e.g. putting a ball in a goal) or a specific objective.  Chess meets the latter requirement in that the objective is to capture the opponent's king.  Any sport that relies on judging, e.g. figure skating, does not meet either requirement.  As for boxing, I'd say to say, this is borderline - knockouts are a clear objective, but when there is no knockout, judging comes into play  (grrr...)  A substantial amount of running around and athleticism.  This rules out activities like bowling and pocket billiards, which require a high degree of accuracy but no real athleticism.  This also rules out golf - sorry Tiger Woods fans.  And, it rules out chess, where about the only time you'll see someone running fast is when he has to take a bathroom break and there isn't much time on his clock.

Examples of real sports: Baseball, football, basketball, soccer, hockey, beach volleyball, swimming

Not sports: Golf, bowling, pocket billiards, darts, figure skating, diving, chess, American Idol   


only 5 sports exsist baseball, football, basketball, hockey and boxing.  soccer is not a sport because sports must use (really use) hand-eye cordination.   beach volleyball is not a sport because anything that girls can be good at are not sports. and swimming is not a sport because a sport must use a projectile   

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm I'm wondering is track & field a activities sport or none sport?

pimpskillz
Blitz55 wrote:
pimpskillz wrote:
hazenfelts wrote:

  My opinion is that the word chess does not have sporting connotations.  Although from what I can tell the world's best players have a rigorous training schedule to make sure they are in peak condition for the event they face.


I think all sports have a champion or championship game. Chess has its champions and and they train and practice and drill just as much as say ball teams, But sadly i do not think it is a sport. If so all board games should be classified as sports. Who's the candy land or shoots and ladders champ. Ya feel me!?


Shoots and Ladders champion would be me. I don't like to brag about it.


LMAO!!!!

pimpskillz
hazenfelts wrote:
pimpskillz wrote:
hazenfelts wrote:

  My opinion is that the word chess does not have sporting connotations.  Although from what I can tell the world's best players have a rigorous training schedule to make sure they are in peak condition for the event they face.


I think all sports have a champion or championship game. Chess has its champions and and they train and practice and drill just as much as say ball teams, But sadly i do not think it is a sport. If so all board games should be classified as sports. Who's the candy land or shoots and ladders champ. Ya feel me!?


You should read an entire comment before you choose to quote as you've misquoted me.  I actually said that perhaps this brings it closer to being a sport, but I don't know.  I also said that perhaps as chess players we should try and look for reasons to make it a sport is it is so easy to find reasons to claim it is not.  Tonymtbird - Is what you said a joke, football (or what you call soccer) is perhaps the most popular sport in my country and many others.  You've also missed out rugby and cricket and your so called, 'five true sports' do not even fit the criteria you set out for them

ok sport

pimpskillz
TheGrobe wrote:

I really don't understand the need that some have to validate an activity by requiring it to be a sport.  It seems that there is a notion that sports are superior to games and in order for chess to be a worthwhile pursuit we have to include it in this "superior" category.  The fact is that there is no qualitative difference between the two categories -- each has it's own unique set of merits and neither is superior to the other.  Also in claiming chess as sport, you do a disservice to both the game of chess, which stands both as the game of kings and the king of games, and to the English language which suddenly has little use for the distinction between sport and game once this miscategorization is adopted.


 Yeah what he said

pimpskillz
creambun wrote:

I would have thought Chess was a game but a very sophisticated one. Sports do seem to be more physical in nature it seems, although there are some exceptions like Pool or Darts. But even in those cases the emphsis is on physical skill, accuracy and so on. Games, card games, board games, and especially chess seem to be more intellectual in nature.

on a related idea, I had an discussion the other day with someone who said Poker was not gambling but rather a game of skill. Seems to me it definitely involes skill but is also definitely gambling? What do you think?


 gambling definitely

pimpskillz
mufasah123 wrote:
KODIAK42 wrote:

Both and more. It can be a sport or a game, a hobby, and intellectual pastime. Chess thrives on competition, but that is not its alpha and omega. It can be played, as with so many other sports and games, for the camaraderieand social aspect. Some prefer tournament chess, others online chess. Then there are the time as well as game variants, Chess960 for example. The came can change for you as your life changes. It can be a game for you as a kid, a sport and competition for your 20's and 30's and a pastime to spend with family and friends over a glass of wine in front of the fireplace, when the competitive urges have receded. One can study and take pleasure from the games of masters past and present. Study problems and endgame compositions. Use software to explore ideas of the masters as well as your own. Chess, is a game and a sport. It is more than that though, it is a lighthouse, a beacon, our rock of Gibraltar, of what the human mind and spirit is capable off. It is a sign, a symbol of all that is best in us. It is the Royal Game (in more than one way).


 I applaud this (clapclapclap).  This should be a quote.


 yeah what they said

chesscrazee
subtext wrote:
Reb wrote:

 " Chess is a game."  - Boris Spassky  

He should know.  I agree with Boris.


 Tal called it sport. I Agree with Tal.


good reply Cool

pimpskillz

Very entertaining topic! but chess is a game played by some with the abscence of fun. This topic was fun! Tony,lobster, hazen and therest of you guys are ok in my book. Anyone care for a game!! 

pimpskillz

Oh yeah; if chess is a sport could TRASHTALK BE A STRATEGY?

EternalChess

Soccer is a sport..

According to what i learned, hand-eye coordinate was not one of the 10 rules that make up a sport.

patzer76

Neither, chess is basically a waste of time, a pleasant way to waste the time, but still a waste of time :)

LordJones3rd

chess is whatever you want it to be.

Vik-Hansen
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