Is Chess.com membership worth it?

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It is there.

You dont have to start a game. New game-Custom-Select if you want 1 day, 2 day etc; and it will be there.

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SFLovett wrote:

The number only goes up once per click (ouch)... I don't know how high it can be.

Just put your curser up there and enter whatever number you want. 

 

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yes, definitely.

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SFLovett wrote:

yep... nice. they just need to do that for Live games

I agree.

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Yes for the game review it is worth it because you will learn on your mistakes insights is good too for puzzle their is other apps or sites where you can get puzzles for free but with chess.com membership that wouldn't matter.

 

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GraveMurky wrote:
waddady wrote:

Yes for the game review it is worth it because you will learn on your mistakes insights is good too for puzzle their is other apps or sites where you can get puzzles for free but with chess.com membership that wouldn't matter.

 

 

The insights are super expensive and I'm not sure its really worth it.  more of a gimmick.  What you can do is just export your game to lichess and get a computer analysis there.   Most coaches and GM's will tell you to try and analyze your game yourself without the computer before anything though.

Inisghts are cool to look at one time, and after that you've seen everything there is to see.  I've seen other people's and it's nothing earth shattering you're going to learn from.  A point might be made that you could find weaknesses that need worked on by looking at the stats, but from what I've seen all the stats seem flat enough that there's not much to see.  Lichess puzzle dashboard tells me about all I want to know about my strengths and weaknesses.  I just don't like the engine generated puzzles that much.  Boy do I suck at them... lol. 

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Fritz annotations like, “doesn’t get the bull off the ice”, are generally more insightful and useful than anything “coach” says. The numbers tell you when you erred. It is up to you to create the words.

I use this site’s game analysis to confirm suspicions before making a fair play report. That remains its best use.

To know where I erred, I download my games to ChessBase and do real analysis. Usually the answers are easy: I give away pieces, as do all players below master.

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Ziryab wrote:

Fritz annotations like, “doesn’t get the bull off the ice”, are generally more insightful and useful than anything “coach” says. The numbers tell you when you erred. It is up to you to create the words.

I use this site’s game analysis to confirm suspicions before making a fair play report. That remains its best use.

To know where I erred, I download my games to ChessBase and do real analysis. Usually the answers are easy: I give away pieces, as do all players below master.

Everyone, even masters do it.  They just do it a lot less often. 

I like the "Show moves" button, where it animates all the moves.  Then I go back and look at the line to see what it was I missed that allowed it. 

I've never reported anyone for fair play.  I'm not sure I've never run into any cheaters, but if I did they were good enough at it so as to not make c.c look. 

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1g1yy wrote:
Ziryab wrote:

Fritz annotations like, “doesn’t get the bull off the ice”, are generally more insightful and useful than anything “coach” says. The numbers tell you when you erred. It is up to you to create the words.

I use this site’s game analysis to confirm suspicions before making a fair play report. That remains its best use.

To know where I erred, I download my games to ChessBase and do real analysis. Usually the answers are easy: I give away pieces, as do all players below master.

Everyone, even masters do it.  They just do it a lot less often. 

True.

And I will occasionally play a game where I did not.

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I enjoy it if your into statistics and knowing exactly what to work on. I’ve used all the features often
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ChessBase and Fritz. You cannot play against the database program, and the database features of the playing program are primitive. When you have both properly installed, you can easily close one while opening the other without losing the position before you.

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Depends....

If you use a desktop, probably. If you play using an app (iPad etc), dubious. A lot of the features, navigation, etc. that's intuitive and easy to use on the desk top has not been ported over, or where it has it's buggy.

As for the lessons etc. Hard to justify. A LOT of it is available for free on YouTube -that's just the nature of the beast for any knowledge-based valuation. The C.com "challenges" I find to be not so helpful as they dont seem well developed as an instructional graduation of knowledge & skill, ie., I dont find myself having "improved" any after completing a set of challenges.

If you're new to chess, like know what the pieces are and how they move and that's basically it, and really wanna learn the game and develop quickly, I would think membership is worth it. Im not that person. Used to be a 1800 to 2000-ish rated player before the internet was a thing, and now Im nowhere near that (which is a fascinating topic on it's own) and really have a hard time getting the value for money -but again... that might because I use C.com primarily on my iPad.

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I would honestly say it is.

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SFLovett wrote:
GraveMurky wrote:
waddady wrote:

Yes for the game review it is worth it because you will learn on your mistakes insights is good too for puzzle their is other apps or sites where you can get puzzles for free but with chess.com membership that wouldn't matter.

 

 

The insights are super expensive and I'm not sure its really worth it.  more of a gimmick.  What you can do is just export your game to lichess and get a computer analysis there.   Most coaches and GM's will tell you to try and analyze your game yourself without the computer before anything though.

I think Game Review is great, though far from perfect (as my friend @Optimissed has demonstrated). Lichess can't match it, as much as I like it (and it's free!). And Chessbase (yes, I tried it again) does a good job if you mostly just want the numbers, and to see what the greats have played (much like CC's Openings Explorer), but does nothing to let you know WHY a move is good or bad... "coach explanations" probably need to be taken with a grain of salt, but at least they exist.  Since a Gold membership doesn't include Game Review, I think it isn't worth the money unless you just want to get rid of the ads: bots and puzzles are everywhere, for free. And if you can afford Platinum (Game Review but limited "coach explanations"), you can probably afford the little extra for Diamond, and get Insights as well.

 

In this case, the “coach’s” explanation is flat wrong. Outposts mean nothing when the critical element of the position is White’s three connected passed pawns. My move is an error because it fails tactically, not because I rejected a meaningless outpost.

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Hi guys, just wanted to know that I got platinum membership. Thanks for your opinions!!

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Can I know where it is?

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I would never support a site that is politizicing chess. Lichess is even worse though.

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no.

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GraveMurky I have loved chess for longer than you have been alive. I would be very upset if something were threatening the game. I am apathetic about cheaters because there is nothing you can do about them. I do not think it is a problem to have two accounts. Chess.com is doing a great job. Join the cheating club. It's unbelievable how some members can spot a problem. The situation is under control. Please relax and have fun. Most of us I feel are just too apathetic to hear your arguments even though we have tried to follow them.

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I report suspects frequently. On my preferred site, many of them get banned and my rating points are restored. The other site rarely shows evidence of action.

Ad for the OP’s question. I find that Diamond here is a good value. I also donate to the other site. Both sites have much to offer.