Is it ok if I use the maximum of my time in daily games?

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Joselo_89

Hi guys

Lately I have been playing daily games. I find them very entertaining. But as anyone else I have other duties to do as well (work, study, etc). Therefore sometimes I am forced to use the maximun of my time when I am on busy days, so that I make move when I get the notifications that I am running out of time.

For example: if I play daily chess of 2 days per move and most of my moves are made when I am about to lose on time...do you think this if unfair for my oponent because I delay the game?

wanmokewan

Nope.  You're allowed to use your time as you see fit.  You both agreed to the time control.  You're also a premium member, so you'll have auto vacation as well.  Just be careful not to use it as a stalling tactic.

JayeshSinhaChess
It is definitely annoying when my opponent doesnt move quickly esp when he is losing


However in a two day per day move its not an issue but if you were to play longer games like seven days or ten days and then move only on the tenth day then that will also be within your right fully so but if your opponent is more active it would annoy the hell out of him

So keep that in mind but it is within your rights to move whenever you want
LouStule
No problem but please,please,please don’t abuse the vacation feature!
Fork_master

The longest daily games i play are 1day per move,, wat the hell does someone need 3 days, 5 days, 10 days only to make a move?

Spielkalb

+1 for the comment of @wanmokewan. By starting the game you both agree on the time limit, so it's very much okay to use that to the last second.

If someone is wining about opponents using their time, it seems stupid to me because they accepted those conditions in the first place  

But out of politeness, I really do recommend making use of the "conditional moves". Especially in capture or mating situations it is nice for your opponent to get your answer straight away.

 

AndreAnda

+1 for the comment of @Spielkalb. And like @JayeshSinhaChess says, it is particularly annoying when the stalling player is losing. So maybe be extra considerate when you are losing or when the game is irrelevant for a tournament.

Spielkalb
AndreAnda wrote:

And like @JayeshSinhaChess says, it is particularly annoying when the stalling player is losing. So maybe be extra considerate when you are losing or when the game is irrelevant for a tournament.

Actually, if you're in a losing position it's just natural to crack your head about getting out of your misery. So, of course, it might take longer for you to make your move. I don't see it as a kind of "stalling".

And yes, I know the feeling "Why takes it so long for that guy to give in into his inexorable doom?" But that's a little selfish, it's nothing wrong with my opponent taking his time, especially in a bad position.

Again, agreed is agreed, everyone may use their time regardless of the situation on the board. 

Plus, if you're in a winning position, does it really matter if you claim your victory immediately or in six weeks time? 

Joselo_89

Ok guys...thanks for sharing your opinions.

I asked because on the profile of some players I see quite often that his opponents rush him by posting things like:
"hey man, make your move in the x tournament; you are delaying the entire tournament; we are all waiting for you, to start playing the next round"

But that tends to happen to players who play more than 100 games at once.

YourShahIsNowMat

That's fine but what if someone completely forgets they started the game in the first place?

camter
YourShahIsNowMat wrote:

That's fine but what if someone completely forgets they started the game in the first place?

Yeah, it is even worse if you press the wrong button and find someone at the other end ready to play.

It happen under the new V3 a lot. They have done away with a lot of Confirm buttons, and hide stuff underneath an icon. 

Spielkalb
YourShahIsNowMat wrote:

That's fine but what if someone completely forgets they started the game in the first place?

 

Well, in this case they'll lose the game on time - so what? 

jbolden1517

I'm going to come down on the opposite of much of the comment above.  I think taking the maximum is generally seen as annoying and rude.  A 2-day/move player is saying they may sometimes have to skip a day.  It is not read as that they will almost always skip a day.   If you play something like 5-day a move and move in 2 days though that will be fine.  By 5-day/move no one is expecting same day responses.  

Spielkalb

Hi @jbolden1517, I've got some problems with understanding your comment.

1) Why do you think that it is generally seen as rude to take the maximum? Is it maybe because only the guys who are feeling annoyed that are becoming vocal? I mean people like me who are okay with their opponents taking their time wouldn't write their compliance down all the time.

Maybe my stance is a bit old school, but I've been taught as a kid it's extremely rude trying to rush your opponent into moving. Patience is a virtue.

2) Are you suggesting taking two days a move would be fine for a game with the setting of five days a move, but not for a game with two days move? I honestly didn't understand your point. 

jbolden1517

@Spielkalb  

 

I don't think you had trouble understanding, you just seem to disagree.  As for (1) what I said.  The average time  / move should be a fraction of the maximum generally the next level down.  A 2 player should generally move in 1 day.  A 3 day player generally in less than 2.  A 5 day player generally in less than 3, etc...  The maximum should be a rarity.   

 

As for (2) yes.  Exactly.  A 1-day / move player is expecting to wrap the game up in about a week.  A 14/day player is planning on the game taking a year.   Of course a 1 day / move game can take 3 months but the people who signed up for that aren't looking for a game to take months.   People taking the maximum are violating the social expectation.  

Brithel
I am going to agree with @jbolden1517.It is true that u are within your right to move at the last second of your time every time u have to play.but that doesn’t mean it is socially right to do so.What I mean is that the reason players may choose the 3days/move game for example is because they may have to delay their move due to work or other circumstances.But being online and still not moving until there are 3 hours of time left in a 3days or more game is considered insensitive and rude.Personally I am not whining about it when it happens but it is annoying.
Brithel
Then u shouldn’t play 200 games respecting the other players that have to wait for you.i play 3-15 games each time so that I can move fast and not force others to wait for me.
DigitalStrike

I don't really understand why anyone would suggest that it's "socially unacceptable" to take your time in a CORRESPONDENCE game. I generally move fast, but I'm not about to be ill with someone takes the time that's allocated to them. If you want a 1 day/move game, play 1 day/move. This is comparable to going to an OTB event that is a 90/30 time control and complaining that each game takes 2 hours. You knew what the time control was when you agreed to play.

Brithel
You have a point.Apologies.Still I think that since u can’t decide exactly how many hours you should play each move in order to be satisfied(example games of 15 hours per move) I think it is a matter of sensitivity for chess players in correspondence chess.This is just my opinion so I don’t complain about it when other players take their time but it is something that I try to follow.
AndreAnda

How about making the time-per-move statistic more visible, for example by adding a bar going from red to yellow to green for all the players when you accept a challenge. Would that make everyone happy?