psychic chess masters

Have you ever taped buttered toast to your cat's back and dropped it to create perpetual motion, because toast always lands buttered side up, and cats always land on their feet, thus it spins forever....?  Having said that.  I have two cats and they are awesome.

The butter always slips off the tape when I try that. I'm sure if we could just solve this problem then the energy crisis would be gone forever.

That's the problem with perpetual motion machines.  There's always a catch.  And even if you do create one, the USPTO won't let you take a patent out on one.  For some weird reason, perpetual motion machines are considered impossible.  They obviously haven't seen some of the debates in this thread.  If these revolving arguments aren't of the toast/cat variety, I don't know what is.

Yes, I know what tachyons are. You missed my point. Saying "if a hypothetical particle actually exists, they might harness them for drive systems" is silly. When you are reduced to saying that aliens MIGHT use HYPOTHETICAL particles in some way that nobody but you has ever speculated it might be possible to use them, it's very strong evidence that you've veered into the realm of fantasy, as did I when I talked about harnessing pixie dust as a drive system.

Absolutely, this is the sort of skepticism and self-doubt that is lacking among the true believers, who think that memory is usually correct and eye-witness testimony is usually reliable.

As Richard Feynman said:

The first principle is that you must not fool yourself — and you are the easiest person to fool.

Have you tried it? What actually happens is that the toast flips to the underside of the cat via quanum tunnelling.

I'm sorry, it was in Whales, not Scotland:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-18798867

No. Three out of one thousand.

But the nine hundred ninety seven others did not report the satellite they saw as a "UFO", as they recognised it was a satellite.

life doesn't make sense

I remember when I was a child having seeing something beyond the clouds, no wonder, do you know the brain mess up with your remembrances and constantly rewrites your memory to build a consistent history, then there are this collective effect if some place is told to be a UFO scenario, then everybody starts to witness UFOs in that place

most of them are desiring to watch a UFO

replace a for an when needed

Yes, people think their brain and memories are like some sort of video camera. They aren't.

So based on the fact that people might have distorted memories, or be dishonest or duped, you conclude that everyone who believes they've seen a UFO that is or might be extra-terrestrial did not?  Is that the bottom line?  Is there any room in your mind for it still to be a question?

I thought you might say that.

You thought?  I was quite certain that a lot of people would respond with that joke so often that it would be like Deja Vu all over again.

There's no way I'm going to sort thru 32 pages to see if someone already wrote something similar. A bold gambit on my part, I know.

Has anyone read this book?

On February 4, 1974, members of the Symbionese Liberation Army kidnapped nineteen-year-old newspaper heiress Patricia Hearst from her Berkeley, California apartment. Desperate to find her, the police called physicist Russell Targ and Pat Price, a psychic retired police commissioner. As Price turned the pages of the police mug book filled with hundreds of photos, suddenly he pointed to one of them and announced, “That’s the ringleader.” The man was Donald DeFreeze, who was indeed subsequently so identified. Price also described the type and location of the kidnap car, enabling the police to find it within minutes. That remarkable event is one reason Targ believes in ESP. Another occurred when his group made $120,000 by forecasting for nine weeks in a row the changes in the silver-commodity futures market.

As a scientist, Targ demands proof. His experience is based on two decades of investigations at the Stanford Research Institute (SRI), which he cofounded with physicist Harold Puthoff in 1972. This twenty-million dollar program launched during the Cold War was supported by the CIA, NASA, the Defense Intelligence Agency, and Army and Air Force Intelligence. The experiments they conducted routinely presented results could have happened by chance less than once in a million. Targ describes four types of experiments:

1. Remote Viewing, in which a person describes places and events independent of space and time. For example, while in California Price drew to scale a Soviet weapons factory at Semipalitinsk with great accuracy later confirmed by Satellite photography. In another remote viewing, Targ accurately sketched an airport in San Andreas, Columbia himself. 

2. Distant Mental Influence, where the thoughts of the experimenter can positively or negatively affect the physiology (heart rate, skin resistance, etc.) of a distant person.

3. Whole field isolation, where someone in a state of sensory isolation accurately describes the visual experiences of someone else in another place.

4. Precognition and retrocausality, showing that the future can affect the past. That is, the elephant you see on television in the morning can be the cause of your having dreamed about elephants the previous night.

Final chapters present evidence for survival after death; explain how ESP works based on the Buddhist/Hindu view of our selves as nonlocal, eternal awareness; discuss the ethics of exercising psychic abilities,and show us how to explore ESP ourselves. “I am convinced,” Targ says, “that most people can learn to move from their ordinary mind to one not obstructed by conventional barriers of space and time. Who would not want to try that?”

Well, there is also the alcohol factor. It cannot be ruled out.

Well, the bottle in front of you is better than a frontal labotaloo