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waffllemaster
Master_Valek wrote:

It is hard to deny Iron, for instance, the 1952 event in Washington. Or all the Military relations to UFO's which have happened before and after. You can't deny, well... you can deny the events, but is very difficult because it is hard to challenge the integrity of such reports... 

This is my point.  Iron is indisputable.  The conclusions are.  You say aliens and mock me saying spirits.  Yet we use the same reasoning.  I find it funny that you use my reasoning and call me unbelievable.  You continually make my arguments for me.

Knightly_News

Master_Valek wrote:

reflectivist wrote:

Master_Valek wrote:

Irontiger wrote:

Master_Valek wrote:

I think you lot do not do internet research, if you question anything written, google is your friend. 

And everything you find via google is guaranteed source, sure.

 

I have no interest in abduction cases... or most of those links. 

They are f'cking with you because you actually have some passion about your beliefs.  They don't really want to know if you have any anecdotal evidence or if there's any viability to your position at all.  They will only accept hard core proof that is commonly accepted or accepted in all the right circles, and if they have to read more than one sentence to find it, they'll jump back into into clown mode at your expense.

I don't see what leg they stand on however. If I had been outside of this discussion, seen the evidence that the UFO phenomenon had been taken very seriously by the airforce, even investigated them by flying into airspace and then confirming their existences, I don't know what more proof they need. Maybe they'd rather think it is one massive hoax, one not only perpurtrated by the public, but also all those high ranking officials, and to what end?

 -------------reflectivist responds:

I have it on good authority that when the aliens do invade they will have a list of everyone who publicly denied their existence or mocked them, and those people will be anal probed to try to find the real source of their misconceptions. Remember, when you f*** [edited by mod - language] with aliens, you get Glenn Beck

creepingdeath1974
reflectivist wrote:

"I'd like to know how aliens and extra-terrestrials have been factored into a topic about there being psychic chess masters....."

Yeah, I know what you mean.  I think some skeptical people were lumping UFOs with paranormal things as a bunch of unproven bunko, and it took a life of its own.  I don't know... wait, ... I'm getting something

 

Me too I think. Hahahahahahahahaha. It is an incredible urge to go drink two more beers and play some chess like a pyschic chess master conjuring up the spirit of Bobby Fischer through telepathic powers of extra-terrestrial radio wave means of high frequency blah blah babble. Hahahahaha. I am sure there will be somebody who will find my humor to be offensive. Laughing

waffllemaster

I've seen UFOs.  All the time when I was a kid actually.

"Mommy what's that?"
"A car"
"Mommy what's that?"
"That's a hat"
"Mommy what's that?"
" . . . I think it's nap time."

December_TwentyNine
erikzambrano wrote:

 I am sure there will be somebody who will find my humor to be offensive. 

I see the moderators are taking good care of these threads...check this out, in the op's post 832:

"Remember, when you f*** [edited by mod - language] with aliens, you get Glenn Beck"

corrijean

This is a very entertaining article.

http://lloydcates.squarespace.com/early-balloons-in-texas/

waffllemaster
December_TwentyNine wrote:
erikzambrano wrote:

 I am sure there will be somebody who will find my humor to be offensive. 

I see the moderators are taking good care of these threads...check this out, in the op's post 832:

"Remember, when you f*** [edited by mod - language] with aliens, you get Glenn Beck"

You believe in mods?  Hahahaha.  Have you ever seen a mod?  No?  That's what I thought.

TheGrobe

Corrijean, an interesting pattern begins to emerge when you scratch beyond the surface of the conspiracy theories and stop cherry picking who's account you take as most credible. A couple of good finds.

ivandh

I saw a UFO once, but it turned out to be merely unidentified.

TheGrobe

Again, though, seeing something that you can't identify doesn't automatically make it of alien origin.

If this were the case, I think I may have extraterrestrial life in the back of my refrigerator.

TheGrobe

Look harder.

waffllemaster
Master_Valek wrote:
ivandh wrote:

I saw a UFO once, but it turned out to be merely unidentified.

Maybe if my sighting could be attributed to a conventional explanation, I would have had the piece of mind you achieved. Alas, there are no conventional explanations which fit the bill.

Otherworldly experience?  Sounds like spirits if you ask me.

ivandh
waffllemaster a écrit :
Master_Valek wrote:
ivandh wrote:

I saw a UFO once, but it turned out to be merely unidentified.

Maybe if my sighting could be attributed to a conventional explanation, I would have had the piece of mind you achieved. Alas, there are no conventional explanations which fit the bill.

Otherworldly experience?  Sounds like spirits if you ask me.

That was my thought...

waffllemaster

An unconventional experience doesn't require an unconventional explanation.

TheGrobe

Fata Morgana, ball lightning, St. Elmo's fire, Chinese lanterns....

ivandh

Actually, that was me. I have to admit I'm not really from Sao Tomé et Principe as I've led you all to believe, but come from a small planet in the vicinity of Betelgeuse.

Knightly_News

ivandh posted:

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reflectivist responded (using limited interface his iPhone):

Hey you plagiarized my plagiarism of the "Dont Panic" image from The_Perfect_Idiot's thread about the chess coordinate system. Plagiarize your own material to troll with, you lush! Drinking to ward off spirits doesn't excuse your reckless behavior. You aren't Edgar Allen Poe or Ernest Hemmingway

LoekBergman
Master_Valek wrote:
waffllemaster wrote:

An unconventional experience doesn't require an unconventional explanation.

There are no conventional explanations. That is the point, therefore, an unconventional explanation has to be entertained.

 

This goes for all sightings made, even the poor men who have died and disappeared off radar after observing and confirming their existences.

Wafflemaster is correct though and I think that you actually agree with him. All experiences require normal explanations. That is the main line of thought of Occams razor as well.

An UFO (Unidentified Flying Object) is a normal explanation for something that we don't know what it is. If extraterrestials exist and visit us in their vehicles, then do they not use UFO's, but spaceships. As long as we do not understand what we see, then must we use the term UFO. The moment we understand what we see flying, then will we use a different term (Jupiter, a bird, a sausage or a cow for instance).

The unexplained has become part of our explanation of the world and will start to fit in, hence become normal.

chessaustin

i wish i were one

netzach
Master_Valek wrote:
waffllemaster wrote:
Master_Valek wrote:
waffllemaster wrote:

When I was a kid my parents had some friends over and were playing a parlor game, they let me join in.  Essentially the game was to take a dictionary word no one knew the definition of and each player fabricates as plausible a definition as they can.  The real and fabricated definitions are then read aloud and you get a point for every person you fooled with yours.

Anyway... the point is as a kid trying to come up with a believable definition for an unknown word my definition started out... "A top secret..." and immediately people were chuckling.  As a kid I didn't make the connection.  Not saying this is exactly what's happening in these alien proof things, but I always think back to that time and chuckle to myself.  Of course I should have done what these UFO guys do... "A now declassified top secret" or "A once available, but now top secret..."

The interesting thing about the secret memo's, is that they are proof, not evidence, but proof that gov. agencies have taken a very serious stance on the subject, even if never publically admitting it.

Even now, with the documents released, they will not make public statements on the subject, unless statements to simply downplay their involvements or on the rare occasion, make a point that they hold no interest in the subject. Blatent denial in face of the obvious facts contradicting such statements.

UFO's, I would guess, would definitely be considered a matter of national security for any nation... because they're unidentified objects that are flying in their air space.

The jump from "these unidentified objects are of great interest to the government" (well I certainly hope so) to "it's therefore aliens from outer space" is absurd.

Not absurd at all.. it's logical. How can any nation have the technology to escape the airforce in 1952 say, when several UFO's cascaded over the White House? The USA was basically the superpower back then, no one had the technology then to do what was claimed in the Washington sighting.

 

Far from absurd. As my favorite fictional character goes, Sherlock Holmes once said

 

'Favourite' is how Holmes would have said it I expect master.