Is "Chess",An obsession,puzzle,passtime or profession?

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SirSpaceFrog
wbilfc wrote:

Yep and ultimately we're all made of star dust, but that doesn't mean I'm not going to recognise the difference between two people. I think you can probably break most things down to a degree that muddies the waters, but on a day to day basis most people will naturally recognise the difference between physical and mental. How did we get on to this...

I'm not only saying that our base nature is physical.. But that our brain and more importantly our nervous system (for which the brain is only part) is just as much a part of our physical performance as our muscles and skeletal frame are.. That ultimately drawing lines doesn't work any more than saying it's the engine in a car that is responsible for mobility.. Not the Transmission, Chassis or Electrical system.

We got onto this because you gave the definition of sport as a physical endeavor and sought to draw lines between what is mental and physical.

Most people agree that if a bat and ball cost 1.10 and the bat is a dollar more expensive, then the Bat cost 1.00 and the Ball .10.  But that doesn't make it correct.  I'm not trying to prove you or the consensus wrong.. I'm trying to get at the truth.

I'm not attempting to obscure anything, I'm attempting to clarify something that's already obscure.  I'm just saying it's not so easy to seperate what's physical unless you want to draw an relatively arbitrary line depending upon how many calories.. Is throwing a football (that might be 1 calorie), is solving a math problem? (that might be .3) calories.  I'm just saying it's not so clear.  In absence of any absolute ruling, I would consider any competitive endeavor a sport.. To differintiate is to obscure.

batgirl

My eyes are glossing over.... I think my brain just vacated the premises.

wbilfc

MatMcann..ok...just one question, then let's draw a line under it....where do you shop? :0)

Stevie65

Now that i understand! THAT was easy listening!

Thanks Mattmcann.

Now that is a true Captain Kirk, understanding!

transpo

Not only he Foramen Magnum.  Also the Hypothalamus.  And then the Occipital Nodes.

How would you say these inextricable parts of the brain fit into the matrix that you are attempting to describe the form and function of.  I would venture a guess that it is a slight bit more complicated than your respective descriptions can encompass. 

Stevie65

Yeh! I know the Hypothalamus, The thermastat.

CaptJackAubrey
wbilfc wrote:

Isn't sport defined as a competitive physical activity?

If you view the 60 minutes magazines on Bobby Fischer and Magnus Carlsen they both speak of the physical demands of chess especially at the high levels. Most competitive Grand Masters have strong physical regimens.

Also, chess is a recognized sport by the International Olympic Committee.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qc_v9mTfhC8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqBrfjHiNk0

TheGrobe

Just because you also keep fit to ensure you're well balanced and that your mind is operating at it's peak efficacy doesn't make it a sport. By that logic my desk job could be considered a sport.... I just have to lobby the IOC.

CaptJackAubrey
TheGrobe wrote:

Just because you also keep fit to ensure you're well balanced and that your mind is operating at it's peak efficacy doesn't make it a sport. By that logic my desk job could be considered a sport.... I just have to lobby the IOC.

Well, good luck. There is actually a movement to have chess included in the Olympics. In the 2000 Olympics in Sydney chess was played as an exhibition event, Anand v. Shirov. There are those who would contend that curling isn't much of a sport either. According to wbilfc's criteria chess is indeed a sport. It is intensely competitive, it is physical and it is an activity. Who is to say what type of physical exertion it has to be to be considered a sport?

transpo

Chess is 2-dimensional physics for young minds and old.  2-dimensional (forward/back, left/right)  The diagonals are the "wave" as in field theory for 4-dimensional physics in our universe, only 2-dimensional.  The files and the ranks are the particle 2-dimensional space. 

An objection comes to mind right away.  What about the Ns?  They hop over their own pieces as well as the opponent's pieces.  The legal N move is processsed in the following manner: diagonally (2-dimensional "wave" space) left or right(forward or backwards diagonally on the X with the N at the center of the X ), then (forward/backward,left/right) one square in 2-dimensional particle space (ranks and files) to its legal move square.  Even if there is another piece on the destination diagonal square, it bounces away to its legal move destination square.  Particles in our 4-dimensional universe bounce back and forth between wave space and particle space all the time, even when they collide.  There is scientific observation not only at Fermi Lab, but also at the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) in Switzerland/France that the particles do this. 

If you would like to know more please let me know.

goldendog

Ok

fianchetto123

chess is an obsession, pastime, and profession. Not a puzzle. 

Stevie65

Hmmmm.try my latest "oxygen upgrade"

fianchetto123

By the way, OP should rewrite their title correctly as: 

Is chess an obsession, puzzle, pastime, or profession? 

Or turn it into a rhyme: 

"Is the game of chess obsession, 

Puzzle, pastime, or profession?"

Stevie65

This is Anti-Isolation block.Anything after is blocked

zborg

Chess is an addiction.  Most times a rather pleasant one.  Smile

Vilnius_Nstavic

Addictive Obsession

rothbard959

Chess was a game of intellectuals before the invention of supercomputers and cloud computing.

TheGrobe

So you're saying that supercomputers and cloud computing are the new games of intellectuals?

rothbard959

@TheGrobe No, I'm not saying that. I was trying to say that they have killed chess.