When I play bullet (1 minute game), I like the simplification :
http://www.chess.com/livechess/game?id=1323981240
Is simplification considered a 'bad' technique?
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Oct 23, 2015
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#43
G0INGP0STAL wrote:
This thread is nothing but troll bait anymore, with morons saying it's wimpy or whatever to trade down. GM's don't think so, and nobody cares about your idiotic opinions.
Actually, most chessplayers, including GM's(!), play smooshy & drawish. Now, if you can relate to that ?....then you must be as soft as the Pillsbury dough boy who giggles and desires a push-button draw.
I actually don't think you wanna be baked in the oven of chess as a plain & bland biscuit....do you ? Don't you wanna add some cinnamon drizzle and butter to your game ? Or are you gleefully satisfied with your noncreative, uninspiring play ?...."OMG what if I lose ?"
Here's a suggestion: Quit playing like a nerf ball !
The_Ghostess_Lola wrote:
G0INGP0STAL wrote:
This thread is nothing but troll bait anymore, with morons saying it's wimpy or whatever to trade down. GM's don't think so, and nobody cares about your idiotic opinions.
Actually, most chessplayers, including GM's(!), play smooshy & drawish. Now, if you can relate to that ?....then you must be as soft as the Pillsbury dough boy who giggles and desires a push-button draw.
I actually don't think you wanna be baked in the oven of chess as a plain & bland biscuit....do you ? Don't you wanna add some cinnamon drizzle and butter to your game ? Or are you gleefully satisfied with your noncreative play ?...."OMG what if I lose ?"
Here's a suggestion: Quit playing like a nerf ball !
My OTB play is as boring, and drawish as it comes.
Oct 23, 2015
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#45
It is when you when you start trading down hoping to make active (1) extra pawn & that lump king of yours who earlier shivered like a hairless chihuahua behind (3) pawns and a castle.
Thank the game of chess for a king who can move backwards & retreat. Passed kings must be pulled !
Oct 23, 2015
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#47
You're all a bundle of energy. Play this game w/ some passion & start tapping n2 your imagination. It's 3" behind your right eye and it awaits to be unbridled.
Okay, do this. Drive your staid drawn out chess game out to the countryside tonite (like one you would see in The Sound of Music). Open the door and say "Your Free....Run....GO....RUN !" Let it run wildly over the deep green grassy hills under that canopy of sapphire stars. And tell it to find it's own way home. You'll thank me when the moon decides to go to bed.
Now, if you don't understand what I'm talking about ?....then you'll never be thee player. Of course this takes risk/gamble, and most of you are absent such a helix....I can tell by the way you vehemently defend your emasculated "trade down" strategy.
Depending the position , sometimes a simplification ( clarification according to Kasparov ) it's not such an easy technique but most of the times can be the critical point were you opt an advantage. There are many positions were requires a lot of creativity and calculation to realize a favorable simplification.
Oct 23, 2015
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#49
Once I can get a pawn ahead and make trades in such a way that the pawn becomes dangerous for my opponent, then I call that a pretty good game for me:)
Oct 23, 2015
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#50
And the 4th of July Bing Bang Boom you're looking to add to your chess game ?....well, it won't light 'cuz your fuse is wet.
Put another way, those who sow ice reap a breeze that will blow out the fuse of your chess acumen. Plant creativity and you're gonna harvest fulfillment.
Oct 23, 2015
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#51
It not simplifying in itself, it's the giving in to the mindset of its temptation. The whole concept is just fundamentally wrong. Lemme show you a game I play yesterday....I gotta go find it. Hold on.
Oct 23, 2015
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#52
The_Ghostess_Lola wrote:
It not simplifying in itself, it's the giving in to the mindset of its temptation. The whole concept is just fundamentally wrong. Lemme show you a game I play yesterday....I gotta go find it. Hold on.
Ok, now you are at least being reasonable instead of making a blanket statement that it's "wimpy". I said it earlier in this thread, simplification is "another tool in the toolbox" and you use it when "it's the right tool for the job".
Another tool in the toolbox is the central attack to counter a flank attack. I got to use that one recently. Was that wimpy, or should I have just let my opponent mate me with his flank attack?
Oct 23, 2015
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#53
Here's a really boring game. Dull. On 23....Bxd5 is outta the ? I DON'T WANNA TAKE w/ my queen cuz it's disgraceful....but I hafta - or I don't do the combination to begin w/. If it was an exciting game ?....I probably would have used my bishop....just because.
Oct 23, 2015
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#54
Ok so now we have a couple of examples where those who posted them believe simplification was mis-used. Does that make all simplification bad, or is that just "anecdotal evidence" to the contrary?
Oct 23, 2015
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#55
pfren wrote:
There's even a whole book about the fine art of exchanging.
I like Nesis' books "Tactics in the ..." (fill in the blank, opening)
Oct 23, 2015
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#56
To dissipate by using simplification is totally wimpy !....go find a better move !
She just wanted to shove her win in our faces. You know, she's got this ego problem from that Fischer thread...
Oct 23, 2015
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#58
IM pfren....we're bad players, okay ? Give us a break !
And besides, it's not about the game - it's about shamefully offering a queen for queen trade.
I am sorry to say Lola, but your game became boring after your 6...h5. After 7.e5 the position is lost for black. In the combination you mentioned after 21.Rad8 white's Qe4 losses were 22.Nd7 should be enough to have an exciting game.
It's not your fault for this dull game and it's not a simplification example. Your opponent offers you material advantage and you should take it...what ever. If he decides to trade Queens it's his choice not yours.
Sometimes it works in your favour if all your opponent is trying to do is simplify. Because then they might miss out on tactics which could lead to you getting back into the game.
What if your opponent tries to simplify AND prevent you from getting back into the game?
Well, if they're ahead and play well, they will generally win...
What I'm talking about is when someone gets a piece up and then all they concentrate on is trying to trade down. That's when they can miss things.
Simplification is not a bad technique. Simplification without concentrating on the rest is.