Is the the Scheveningen Sicilian bad/outdated now?

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chrisbarcacook

From personal experience having played the 5...a6 and 6...e6 Najdorf/Scheveningen setup, I find the opening not only playable but really enjoyable. Playing 5...a6 first, one does have to watch out for replies other than 6. Be3 or 6. Be2 such as 6.Bg5, 6. h3, etc...( I think this was also mentioned earlier by IM pfren). There is a good book by Lorin D'Costa (Move by Move series) that analyzes game in this setup. It is not popular right now at the top level, but does not mean it is not playable. I have had many online and OTB games against 6.Be3 and I get playable middlegames. Against 6.Be2 I have less experience but the few times I have played against it the middlegame position was cramped but playable.

2hour_chess

I'm curious about this topic because I use to play scheveningen at the club level over 10 years ago. I wonder if the defence is able to win? I notice that back then the dvds I bought for learning it never really translated to success for me. Wonder if I will re-pick it back up one day and do some solo preparation with it to make it shine.

tygxc

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"I wonder if the defence is able to win?" ++ The Keres attack 6 g4 is probably winning for white.
That is why in the English Attack of the Najdorf variation black plays 8...h5 to prevent 9 g4.
Here is an example:
https://www.iccf.com/game?id=1360179

germanythebest12345

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Elroch
tygxc wrote:

@42

"I wonder if the defence is able to win?" ++ The Keres attack 6 g4 is probably winning for white.
That is why in the English Attack of the Najdorf variation black plays 8...h5 to prevent 9 g4.
Here is an example:
https://www.iccf.com/game?id=1360179

That's the English Attack, with the most popular e5 counter, via an unusual move order. The Scheveningen is a different variation, with an early d6 and e6 (and a6 being optional) It can meet an English attack with Be3, when it is the e6 counter to the English Attack (played well by Kasparov).

The Keres Attack is a quick g4 without f3 against the Scheveningen (taking advantage of e6 blocking the bishop on c8 from g4).

MaetsNori

Stockfish played the Keres attack against Leela two months ago, in the Top Chess Engine Championship - Season 26 Superfinal.

Stockfish was unable to break through, and Black held.

So, as of 2024, the Scheveningen is still able to hold, even against the strongest engine there is.