Is There An Unwritten Rule Against Using A Database

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Sred
Narkoman_Lutalica wrote:
Sred wrote:
Narkoman_Lutalica wrote:
Sred wrote:

Correspondence chess has been around for hundreds of years now. Some of the greatest players found it interesting and useful for good reasons.

But hey, lets change the rules because some guys think that it "feels like cheating".

It is obvious that the rules will not change because someone does not like them. The whole concept of correspondence chess is overpriced because it diminishes the human element, that is the essence of the game itself.

*shrug*

If you don't like it, don't play it.

I play only chess 960, hopefully some live option will be introduced.

I totally admit that your personal preferences are as valid as mine.

I like that there is theoretical development in chess, so that the understanding of chess can improve over time and the chess games of tomorrow will be superior to the chess games of today.

On my own modest level, I like it that using correspondence chess I can focus on developing my positional understanding. (I prefer books over databases, so it's not quite clear how the human element is diminished).

I like it that I can play a game that is more than a blunder festival without being a master.

Your mileage may vary.

Jimmykay

Ironically, Game Explorer has some odd bugs today, and using it would not be in your interest!

Irontiger
Narkoman_Lutalica wrote:

The whole concept of correspondence chess is overpriced because it diminishes the human element, that is the essence of the game itself.

[REFERENCE NEEDED]

fiddletim

if one goes to the game of a couple of other playes that is in progress, at the bottom of the onscreen board there is a "comment" choice with the stipulation that the players will not be able to read the comments until after the game.  an obvious reason for that, correct? i had a case of a game where my oppenent "messaged" another player,apparently had them look at "our" game, asking advice about whether he should or should not offer a draw.  i thought that was "chicken"...no offense to the bird.   if one brings another "player" or "electronic" third person into the mix in my mind, is overstepping the bounds of "fairplay". i do the "daily puzzle" daily. i like the "computer workout". i like youtubes of the likes of "anand's 5 minute game". i can continually educate myself and it may be the case that i change tactics mid-game.  fresh discoveries could happen on a court, ball diamond, cricketfield, soccerfield while a game is in progress.   as to the argument above about the phantom soccer goalie ? ill borrow from a wise chessmate who said, "you embarrass yourself"   much below the usual, "apples and organges" comparison. the crux for me is the "third person" input analogy.

Sred
fiddletim wrote:

if one goes to the game of a couple of other playes that is in progress, at the bottom of the onscreen board there is a "comment" choice with the stipulation that the players will not be able to read the comments until after the game.  an obvious reason for that, correct? i had a case of a game where my oppenent "messaged" another player,apparently had them look at "our" game, asking advice about whether he should or should not offer a draw.  i thought that was "chicken"...no offense to the bird.   if one brings another "player" or "electronic" third person into the mix in my mind, is overstepping the bounds of "fairplay". i do the "daily puzzle" daily. i like the "computer workout". i like youtubes of the likes of "anand's 5 minute game". i can continually educate myself and it may be the case that i change tactics mid-game.  fresh discoveries could happen on a court, ball diamond, cricketfield, soccerfield while a game is in progress.   as to the argument above about the phantom soccer goalie ? ill borrow from a wise chessmate who said, "you embarrass yourself"   much below the usual, "apples and organges" comparison. the crux for me is the "third person" input analogy.

Well, your opponent violated the written rules of this site. That's not what this thread is about.

Irontiger
Narkoman_Lutalica wrote:
Irontiger wrote:
Narkoman_Lutalica wrote:

The whole concept of correspondence chess is overpriced because it diminishes the human element, that is the essence of the game itself.

[REFERENCE NEEDED]

Why are you so mean to me. Maybe it is better to admit that you do not understand some things.

I strongly suspect that your claim that correspondance chess "diminishes the human element" is grounded mostly on ignorance that on a valid reasoning.

I was calling you out to provide an argument.

 

You can now proceed to ignore the points I raised and trash-talk me.

Sred

Inspired by fiddletim's post, I take this occasion to ask an off topic question that has been troubling me all my life: Am I the only one who is wondering why there are people who have difficulties comparing apples and oranges?

macer75
bobbyDK wrote:
macer75 skrev:

If a rule is unwritten, then it's not a valid rule.

In response to your question specifically, I have seen staff members state explicitly that it is OK to use databases in correspondence.

most rules how we interact with eachother are not written.

most ethic rules are unwritten, but I guess you obey to those as well.

Not necessarily.

Sred

Concerning the reasoned debate: since the OP's question has been answered (nobody would seriously assume that there is an unwritten rule against it when there is an explicit written rule allowing it), what exactly is it that you are debating now?

Scottrf

Interesting threads get very few replies, a thread with an obvious answer which should last 1 post gets 236 so far.

Scottrf
Narkoman_Lutalica wrote:
Scottrf wrote:

Interesting threads get very few replies, a thread with an obvious answer which should last 1 post gets 236 so far.

This is true. My thread ˝Tyranny of the poor and stupid˝ has only 12 replies. What does this tell us about our fellow disputants?

A thoughtful post but this is a chess website. That might be why yours didn't get more replies. And it's probably offensive to the majority of people. I personally never look in off topic.

Jimmykay
Narkoman_Lutalica wrote:
Scottrf wrote:

Interesting threads get very few replies, a thread with an obvious answer which should last 1 post gets 236 so far.

This is true. My thread ˝Tyranny of the poor and stupid˝ has only 12 replies. What does this tell us about our fellow disputants?

The exception proves the rule.

LudRa95
Scottrf wrote:
Narkoman_Lutalica wrote:
Scottrf wrote:

Interesting threads get very few replies, a thread with an obvious answer which should last 1 post gets 236 so far.

This is true. My thread ˝Tyranny of the poor and stupid˝ has only 12 replies. What does this tell us about our fellow disputants?

A thoughtful post but this is a chess website. That might be why yours didn't get more replies. And it's probably offensive to the majority of people. I personally never look in off topic.

The OP was too long for me to read. The same probably applies for many other potential posters.

LudRa95
Jimmykay wrote:
Narkoman_Lutalica wrote:
Scottrf wrote:

Interesting threads get very few replies, a thread with an obvious answer which should last 1 post gets 236 so far.

This is true. My thread ˝Tyranny of the poor and stupid˝ has only 12 replies. What does this tell us about our fellow disputants?

The exception proves the rule.

By the definition of rule, an exception would disprove it.

Scottrf

I think it's because prove used to be used to mean test.

Scottrf
LudRa95 wrote:

The OP was too long for me to read. The same probably applies for many other potential posters.

Yeah, if you want replies, your post should be short and stupid.

LudRa95
Scottrf wrote:

I think it's because prove used to be used to mean test.

That would make sense.

Jimmykay
LudRa95 wrote:
Jimmykay wrote:
Narkoman_Lutalica wrote:
Scottrf wrote:

Interesting threads get very few replies, a thread with an obvious answer which should last 1 post gets 236 so far.

This is true. My thread ˝Tyranny of the poor and stupid˝ has only 12 replies. What does this tell us about our fellow disputants?

The exception proves the rule.

By the definition of rule, an exception would disprove it.

this is a common English expression with a long history. Feel free to research it.

Jimmykay
Scottrf wrote:
LudRa95 wrote:

The OP was too long for me to read. The same probably applies for many other potential posters.

Yeah, if you want replies, your post should be short and stupid.

It is not that it is too long, but it is condescending and poorly written.

LudRa95
Jimmykay wrote:
LudRa95 wrote:
Jimmykay wrote:
Narkoman_Lutalica wrote:
Scottrf wrote:

Interesting threads get very few replies, a thread with an obvious answer which should last 1 post gets 236 so far.

This is true. My thread ˝Tyranny of the poor and stupid˝ has only 12 replies. What does this tell us about our fellow disputants?

The exception proves the rule.

By the definition of rule, an exception would disprove it.

this is a common English expression with a long history. Feel free to research it.

Regardless if it's common or not, and regardless if it has a long history; it's a false statement. Using the current definition of prove, anyways.