I doubt it, white just has too many pieces and back has too few for a mating net in this position from what I can tell. The black queen is definitely not in the right spot for mate... But maybe someone can find something with a computer, who knows.
Is there any win for black here?
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No, black is hoplessly lost.
Yes, looks like black's best trick is 1. ...Nf2 2. Rxf2 Bxf2 where Black wins an exchange without the loss of either of his attacked pieces.
devoid wrote:
ArchBadger wrote:
Yes, looks like black's best trick is 1. ...Nf2 2. Rxf2 Bxf2 where Black wins an exchange without the loss of either of his attacked pieces.
Black is already down a Rook and a minor piece. Plus a bunch of pawns.
I didn't say it was great, just his best chance. Before he was down 5-16 on the point scale and about to lose another piece, wheras now he is 10-19, "just a queen" down and no threat of losing a piece. He is attacking a hanging knight with his queen, a pawn with his bishop.
I think your best move here is 1...resigns.
But if that's not your groove, then 1...Qxb5, and hope white blunders with RxB, when the knight forks the queen and [s]rook[/s] (sorry, "king"). If any other continuation, your new best move is 2...resigns.
If that's STILL not your groove, do everything you can to find empty checks for the rest of the game, hoping you can stumble into a perpetual.
You could try h3! and hope for a blunder, followed by g5 to open up the b8-h2 diagonal for your queen, but realistically black needs a miracle.
mike100000 wrote:
You could try h3! and hope for a blunder, followed by g5 to open up the b8-h2 diagonal for your queen, but realistically black needs a miracle.
Yeah, upon further reflection, this is probably the better way to hope for a miracle. The potential of opening the king's position greatly increases the hope of a miracle perpetual. You'd still need, what two...maybe three separate blunders before you were back on equal footing? But it's something to shoot for, if you've decided you'd rather empty your gun before going down...
Lost.
The correct move here is to click the resign button
Jun 10, 2010
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thesexyknight wrote:
The correct move here is to click the resign button
well thats what i played after completely overlooking f4 hehe
TupeloProblem wrote:
I think your best move here is 1...resigns.
But if that's not your groove, then 1...Qxb5, and hope white blunders with RxB, when the knight forks the queen and [s]rook[/s] (sorry, "king"). If any other continuation, your new best move is 2...resigns.
If that's STILL not your groove, do everything you can to find empty checks for the rest of the game, hoping you can stumble into a perpetual.
What's wrong with playing Nf2+? This forces white to lose his rook for the knight OR he loses his Queen.
Jun 10, 2010
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Hyannis wrote:
TupeloProblem wrote:
I think your best move here is 1...resigns.
But if that's not your groove, then 1...Qxb5, and hope white blunders with RxB, when the knight forks the queen and [s]rook[/s] (sorry, "king"). If any other continuation, your new best move is 2...resigns.
If that's STILL not your groove, do everything you can to find empty checks for the rest of the game, hoping you can stumble into a perpetual.
What's wrong with playing Nf2+? This forces white to lose his rook for the knight OR he loses his Queen.
i think the point is that black sacrificed a lot of material searching for the initiative and attack. After white achieves this position.. even after picking up the rook Nf2+ Rxf2 Bxf2 black is down tons of material and positionally no advantages after the mating attack is fizzled .. I posted this because I couldnt find anything and resign but wasn't sure if i missed anything
Even after forcing white to trade off the rook for a bishop black is still destroyed when it comes to material and position.
Jun 10, 2010
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thesexyknight wrote:
Even after forcing white to trade off the rook for a bishop black is still destroyed when it comes to material and position.
jinx
white wins after black resigns.....................
You may say this is hopeless...
Analysis by Fritz 12:
1. +- (16.33): 1...Pf2+ 2.Txf2 Lxf2 3.Pd4 Lxd4 4.Dxd4 h3 5.Lxh3 Th5 6.Le3 Dc8 7.Te1 Txh3+ 8.gxh3 Dxh3+ 9.Kg1 Dg3+ 10.Kf1 Df3+ 11.Lf2 Dh1+ 12.Ke2 Dg2
2. +- (17.10): 1...Dxb5 2.Lxg4 Lxc5 3.d6 Db8 4.d7 Le7 5.Te1 Th6 6.Dd5 Td6 7.De5 Dd8 8.Le3 h3 9.Lxh3 Txd7 10.Lxd7
3. +- (17.57): 1...Lxc5 2.Dxg4 Dxb5 3.Te1 Th6 4.Ld7 Dd3 5.f5 Dg3 6.De4 Kg8 7.Lxh6 Ld6 8.Kg1 Dh2+ 9.Kf1 gxh6 10.Dg4+
(Dekker, Limmen 11.06.2010)
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This is from a game I recently played which is over now. Just curious of anyone can find any tricks for black in this position