Is there anything wrong with this Opening?

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. . . for white that is? (and don't all black moves seem reasonable?)  

1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Bc5 4.Nxe5 Nxe5 5.d4Bxd4 6.Qxd4 f6 7.f4 Nc6 8.Qd5 Qe7 9.Kf2 

In preparation for white moving Re1 and then pushing his e pawn.  

Anyone ever seen this gambit? 

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White drops a piece, because the knight on e5 is attacking the bishop

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sorry tried to enter moves in diagram and failed

Vivinski's point is that 5...Nxc4 and black has to be a little careful of white's Qd5 but he holds his piece.

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Yes, it looks reasonable for Black to accept the free bishop.

Please Davy, stop "inventing" openings and learn the basics first.

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lol

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pfren wrote:

Please Davy, stop "inventing" openings and learn the basics first.

Learn the basics! Memorize the ECO! 

Tough job, though! lol!

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I really didn't see that.  Getting older I guess.  But I WILL continue to try new things and not be a Greek smart ass.  

Thanks Paul.  

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OK, but please notice that you cannot build a car without knowing how to hold a screwdriver.

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Why don't you play d4 on move 3 with either the scotch, scotch gambit or even a danish gambit?

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I'll explore that Vivinski.  I'm reading a book on Morphy and Tal...seems these two great players were always looking for the off beat, out of left field moves, that, ahem, LESSER players would ridicule, but in the end, they triumphed, due to their 'out of the box' thinking.  That's what I'm working on.  The Journey of a 1000 miles begins with one step, and all that.  I'm thinking to become better than average, one HAS to learn how to find the off beat crazy looking sac's.  

Well, it just bothered me after I'd played this several times.  There HAD to be something wrong, it seemed too good to be true.  And Bingo, there it was!  I just didn't see the knight taking the bishop.  Heck, I'm only a 1600 player and trying to improve.  Someone said I've done well, coming this far in 8 months from a 900 rating.  

Now if I can just find my screwdriver . . . whilst someone looks for their Dale Carnegie book.  

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One thing I LOVE in blitz is this crazy sac, it wins me so many fast games:

And the idea is to play h4, Ng5, get your queen working, and do it fast to utilize temporary exposure of the king...wait one or two moves and Black will be safe and sound in a artificial castle and you'll have lost a piece.

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u have done well. Be careful w/ morphy/Tal ideas these giants were not off the track......they had many years of hard work that prepared them for brillancy.

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Nice Fianchetto, hard to argue with success.  It's sacs like those that push the borders.  

Great handle!  Here's your avatar:  http://files.chesskidfiles.com/images_users/tiny_mce/BoundingOwl/spy-chicken.PNG

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All advice is taken, considered and probably used.  I'm working ALL angles and sides.  The path to success is not a straight line without mistakes.  

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yea your right...being humble helps.

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I think Morphy and Tal knew the basics before they tried anything "off track" for their time period?

Before inventing an opening you probably need to know the basics. 

If one tries to "invent openings" before he knows the basics--he is really on the wrong path to improve his chess.

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Conratulations on going from 800 to 1500 in less than a year! Kudos!

But do not waste your progress on unproductive ideas.

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