JadeIdol wrote:
We create our own luck
In other words, you strive for better odds.
Is there such thing as "luck" in chess?
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llama_l wrote:
question-authority wrote:
Luck, in common usage, exists everywhere. If you get home before the rain it's lucky for you.
However, luck, in and of itself, is just a word. There is no force in nature causing luck to occur, good or bad. It's just the way humans describe an incident they see as fortunate or not.
A simple example:
One man steps in front of a moving bus and gets squashed. A second man, next to him, jumps back and is missed by the bus. Did both good and bad luck occur in the same instant? Hardly.
Luck is a subjective word, but just a word.
Or maybe a better way to put it...
One man steps in front of a bus and is hit and killed.
Another man steps in front of a bus and is hit and killed.
Identical actions and outcomes, but for one of them it was good luck, and for one of them it was bad luck.
Therefore luck is subjective.
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This is like someone talking to themselves. You seem to be agreeing on all points.
I think it's an over-statement to claim "there is no force in nature causing luck to occur".
Just one person's opinion which isn't necessarily correct.
bh
I don’t think so because chess obviously is a brainy game and you win with your skill until and unless your opponent’s internet would get disconnected and you win a game with abandoning
llama_l wrote:
GGAdidev wrote:
I don’t think so because chess obviously is a brainy game and you win with your skill until and unless your opponent’s internet would get disconnected and you win a game with abandoning
As has been posted a few times (some of them by me) in this topic over the years...
The rules describe a game with no luck. It's a game of complete information for example.
But when humans play it, there is luck involved.
Luck is involved when engines play as well, might be worth adding.
llama_l wrote:
Well, he says good and bad luck can't occur in the same instant... but that's odd... it was two different people. There are a few billion humans. There are around 8 billion simultaneous events happening all the time (if we're restricting it to an individual's experience).
But he was setting up a good line of reasoning... it just needed a different ending, IMO.
I can't count. In my opinion, if you have an ability to clearly imagine future events ... that is, model them accurately and clearly in your imagination, you can cause those events or make them more likely to happen. This is the "delusion" that some people here dwell on so much. They quite understandably reject such ideas because they've been taught to do so.
Guys quit chatting and get to chess
Why?
It is quit annoying here so if you guys mind to lower the chatting. please
question-authority wrote:
Optimissed wrote:
In my opinion, if you have an ability to clearly imagine future events ... that is, model them accurately and clearly in your imagination, you can cause those events or make them more likely to happen.
I'm back. I imagined you'd be presenting yet another idea with no logic let alone a demonstration for those of us taught to reject such things, and sure enough...................
Perhaps a quick anecdote of your powers to control the future would be entertaining.
Do you believe that you're questioning authority? Or that people should do so, since your name seems to be like a command?
Just a quick reply to your own comment, while you're thinking up a suitably ascerbic reply to my rather reasonable question.
It is that you don't seem to be a person whose judgement on what is logical and what is not logical might be trusted by anyone, let alone people more intelligent than you. So is it just an opinion that you're expressing? As I mentioned I don't give evidence: I give opinions only. And anecdotes only for people I like, that they may enjoy them or not, as they please.
question-authority wrote:
Is that your latest dodge? How about a reply rather than pretending to care about my user name?
How about a reply, instead of dodging?
Let's get this straight. You came here to insult other people.
I answered you because I want to tell you something. That user-name you have? Well, the nearest you ever come to questioning authority is when you ignore your teacher at school who asks you to please be quiet because he's sick of the sound of your voice when he's trying to teach people who want to learn. And so you probably get yourself suspended from school. Did that happen?
As for questioning intellectual authority, you don't even know what that means. You believe everything they program you to believe. Who is they? People who program you.
Also, you may be used to comments from others about your lack of intelligence & that would be because you don't show any. I'm hardly the only one who's objected to your presence here and thinks you're polluting the thread, so don't pretend otherwise.
That's all I'm saying to you.
Life itself is lucky. If I want to be reminded of the meaning of life I need only look at the end of one of Elroch's threads where it tells me that
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Oct 3, 2023
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lfPatriotGames wrote:
I like Breyers chocolate chip mint ice cream. In my opinion it's the best ice cream there is. Unfortunately I have no evidence of that though.
In the San Francisco Bay Area we have a century-old ice cream brand "Dreyer's", headquartered in Oakland. (They were bought by Nestle some years back and went nationwide.) Every time Breyer's comes out with an advertising campaign here, sales of Dreyer's goes up but Breyer's reap no benefit.
Oct 3, 2023
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question-authority wrote:
However, luck, in and of itself, is just a word. There is no force in nature causing luck to occur, good or bad. It's just the way humans describe an incident they see as fortunate or not.
A simple example:
One man steps in front of a moving bus and gets squashed. A second man, next to him, jumps back and is missed by the bus. Did both good and bad luck occur in the same instant? Hardly.
In most of the recent posts here those who claim luck exists in chess reason that when players can't calculate exact outcomes, the judgements they make are no different than guesses as to what number will come up on a roulette wheel. When this sort of "luck" determines the results of a chess game, then both good and bad luck DO always occur at the same time, one type for each contestant.
OK I applied to join the Acropolis of Discussion. I only joined in the first place because I like the name. I spent a few days sleeping out on the Acropolis in 1973. I spent the first night actually sleeping in the Parthenon, on the cold, hard, stone floor there, in my sleeping bag.