No
Is there such thing as "luck" in chess?

Who knows, if we were debating the existence of Australia, maybe that would be an argument you could win? Just make the thread Ill give you a run for your money. Or sand on the beach which ever you prefer. Maybe then we dont have to hear about either of them here.
You've already lost.
Here.
To everybody. Including to yourself.
No need for other forums for that.
Mentioning Australia and sand on beaches bothers you?
Your pretenses that invoking terms is an argument makes no sense.
So that's why it bothers you.
Among so many many other things.
You'll need 'luck'.
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That was personal? A response to Octo's pathetic attempt at baiting?
I'm addressing Octo's postings and postings style.
LIke his attempts to bother members here by talking about violence at the chessboard.
I don't know what Octo's like in offline life.
And Octo's been wiser than O - in Octo not spam-splashing his personal life into the forum subject.
Who is Octo actually? Got candidates.
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there is no luck in chess until something lucky happens.
Which happens constantly.
So yes. There is luck in chess.
But no need to keep beating it to death.
As often happens in forums - after some progress - then there's 'views' that have already been seen.
So far after years:
1) Very pathetic pretenses by one person that mentioning a term like 'cheating' could 'knock out' luck in chess.
2) Claims that 'luck is just a perception'.
But that isn't the case because purpose - like luck - is real.
3) Rejection of luck as opposed to denial. People don't like luck in chess.
Which isn't the same as pretending it doesn't exist.
So #3 better than the first two.
4) Acceptance of the reality of luck in chess.
And be Glad when you're on the up-side of it.
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When you're on the downside - you'll live with it.
Reminds me of a funny line I heard decades ago about chess.
'When you lose you die!'
And something a poker player told me
'when you lose a big hand - take a break. Walk around.
And then life is Beautiful again!'
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Summary: there's luck in chess. LIve with it.

Who knows, if we were debating the existence of Australia, maybe that would be an argument you could win? Just make the thread Ill give you a run for your money. Or sand on the beach which ever you prefer. Maybe then we dont have to hear about either of them here.
You've already lost.
Here.
To everybody. Including to yourself.
No need for other forums for that.
Mentioning Australia and sand on beaches bothers you?
Your pretenses that invoking terms is an argument makes no sense.
So that's why it bothers you.
Among so many many other things.
You'll need 'luck'.
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That was personal? A response to Octo's pathetic attempt at baiting?
I'm addressing Octo's postings and postings style.
LIke his attempts to bother members here by talking about violence at the chessboard.
I don't know what Octo's like in offline life.
And Octo's been wiser than O - in Octo not spam-splashing his personal life into the forum subject.
Who is Octo actually? Got candidates.
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Its really odd why you want to be that hostile towards me. Feeling frustrated in an argument is one thing but this seems more than that.. Usually it would be a reaction towards a perceived threat.... I was not baiting anything, just joking about your seemingly random analogies about Australia and beaches or whatever. Who am I actually? Just a poster among others lol, nice to meet you mr. player.

regarding who Octo actually is ...
could such a person be real?
he and shadowtanuki had a 'fight'. Short. One time only. Was it staged?
Like shadow - Octo worships the other O.
Not a peep out of either regarding O's trolling while they both complain bitterly about much less.
And like O (until 'cured') they both liked to threaten people with reporting ...
could it be ...? If not - may as well be ...
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Dont fight, just relax and wait until chess is solved
Good post!
And don't worry about luck in chess.
Its okay.

regarding who Octo actually is ...
could such a person be real?
he and shadowtanuki had a 'fight'. Short. One time only. Was it staged?
Like shadow - Octo worships the other O.
Not a peep out of either regarding O's trolling while they both complain bitterly about much less.
And like O (until 'cured') they both liked to threaten people with reporting ...
could it be ...? If not - may as well be ...
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Yes absolutely I stage "fights" here so you wouldnt catch onto me being the biggest worshiper here.. or actually Optimissed himself.
Who have I ever threatened to report? Just curious because I dont remember such occasion but clearly you do....

> And don't worry about luck in chess.
Usually I dont worry, just sometimes I imagine how I would throw the chessboard into some extremely lucky opponents of mine if we played in real life

there is no luck in chess until something lucky happens.
Which happens constantly.
So yes. There is luck in chess.
But no need to keep beating it to death.
As often happens in forums - after some progress - then there's 'views' that have already been seen.
So far after years:
1) Very pathetic pretenses by one person that mentioning a term like 'cheating' could 'knock out' luck in chess.
2) Claims that 'luck is just a perception'.
But that isn't the case because purpose - like luck - is real.
3) Rejection of luck as opposed to denial. People don't like luck in chess.
Which isn't the same as pretending it doesn't exist.
So #3 better than the first two.
4) Acceptance of the reality of luck in chess.
And be Glad when you're on the up-side of it.
------------------------
When you're on the downside - you'll live with it.
Reminds me of a funny line I heard decades ago about chess.
'When you lose you die!'
And something a poker player told me
'when you lose a big hand - take a break. Walk around.
And then life is Beautiful again!'
-------------------
Summary: there's luck in chess. LIve with it.
no need to beat it to death, man.
Luck doesn't exist because free will doesn't exist.
The outcome is already determined in the future, so if you lose, you shouldn't blame yourself or regret playing differently because that was impossible.
And if you win, don't get too full of yourself either, because it wasn't really your merit.

Absolutely yes, there is. Here is the proof you have all been waiting for.
With several concrete examples, including two from last year's World Championship match. https://www.facebook.com/share/p/18ZZKfezfS/


Luck doesn't exist because free will doesn't exist.
The outcome is already determined in the future, so if you lose, you shouldn't blame yourself or regret playing differently because that was impossible.
And if you win, don't get too full of yourself either, because it wasn't really your merit.
Nice! Now just prove determinism and im right there with ya.
and when chess is solved, snooker is next.