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gambit13

I was playing this position and eventually we both agreed to a draw as we were both low on time. Seeing as its a closed position with bishops to me it seems a draw. Is this a drawn position?

 

Thanks to all who respond

-YOLO-
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gambit13

NiteAngel wrote:

it's so not a draw!


 Why? A reason would be nice.

-YOLO-
gambit13 wrote:

NiteAngel wrote:

it's so not a draw!


 Why? A reason would be nice.


well... this position is closed which does not mean anything, by pushing pawns both sides can open up files. There are still many pieces on the board and right now both sides could have played positionally. This is not a clear draw

Dragec

The game ended prematurely, looks like a "GM draw". Wink

Still a lot to play there, but OK, if no one wanted to try something, draw is a fair.

mkchan2951

i like black here cuz his dark bishop is better than whites light bishop but it looks more or less equal

-YOLO-
Estragon wrote:

It's not a drawn position.  Both sides have some chances. 

If neither side will take a risk, it could easily peter out to a draw, but that can be said of the opening position before White moves, too.

It does seem rather early in the game for both sides to be short of time.


i agree with you.

gambit13

I played this game out on fritz and it said that I was winning by a small margin. It probably was prematurely ended as I had a small advantage but I didn't think it was  decisive by any means

Dragec

Yes, but white has a small advantage at the beginning of the game as well, but game still needs to be played.

This is a position just out of opening, and one might said that even opening is not finished as kings are in the center, white bishop is not developed.

This is where the game actually begins, one should try to create advantage, so ending the game is really premature.

cberman

I'm trying to figure out what Black's Queen is doing on f6.

There's still room to play. I'd gladly kick on with either color. With White, I'd perhaps be seeking to play g3 and f4 (defended, of course) and castling long. Would have to be wary of tactics and basic defense along the way, but it would offer good attacking chances. Either the f-file or the g-file will become semi-open, and while the bishops are currently closed in (for the most part), some threats could be made on the d-pawn that would open things up.

With Black, I'm just not sure. His pieces are on the Kingside, but an attack on the Queenside seems more profitable. I might either castle long (and put up with the very real threat of a quick attack when the position opens, taking comfort that it would, at least, take awhile) and prepare to push the kingside pawns. More likely, I'd castle short, poke at the White structure with b5, and shore up for the defensive.

I prefer White here.

Hiceberg

White has a solid position,but black has more space and flexibility...I guess there is some game ahead.

Irontiger

I would prefer Black for the bad white bishop, but I would have accepted the draw. Closed position + no knights + sound pawns structures + equal material = draw.

odessian

There is tons of play left. The mentality that this position is drawn because it's closed really slows down your chess development. To me a drawn game is K&R vs K&R or Bishop vs Bishop or Knight vs Knight. With 2 bishops, 2 rooks  and a queen on the board it's very far from a draw

TomasAdduci

Not by chance a draw, it seems as an extremely closed position just after the opening and the frist exchanges, in my opinion this game has just started and both sides have clear winning chances.

You must understand that being equal is not a synonim with being in a draw

xiii-Dex

not too hard to make a not so closed position pretty quickly

SchofieldKid

I would say not a draw and i would be very happy to play this out as black