Is writing notation actually REQUIRED in tournaments?

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chessmicky wrote:

We have the technology, but a pencil and a printed score sheet are pretty hard to match for price

You have to calculate the ‘time-saved-to-price’ ratio.

You save 5 s per move. Over an average 40-move game, that’s 200 s. If you play one game each day, that makes 73,000 s (about 1,200 min, or 20 hours) per year. Over about a decade (probably an average survival time for a computer), that's 200 hours (more than 8 days).

Someone has estimated ‘well over $1,000 US’. That means 200 hours per $1,000, which is 12 minutes per dollar. Would you give one dollar for 12 extra minutes to live? Yeah, maybe not.

But it would still remove quite some stress. Now, unfortunately, stress isn’t measurable (as far as I know), so I can't calculate the ratio.

Now I'm sad. :(

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I don't think anyone's mentioned an obvious reason for wanting to record your game moves. Don't you want to go over the game later and learn from your mistakes? Unless you can memorize the entire game long enough to transcribe it later, or unless you can get a copy of the game from your opponent afterwards (fat chance of that on a regular basis), the game will be lost to you.

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ElvenPrinceLegolas wrote:

Yes that is what I do but it is still far too distracting.

Isn't that a euphemistic way to say "my ability to concentrate is too feeble for even a slight bit of multi-tasking"?   

Why would you admit such a thing?

 

I suspect you won't be providing any blindfolded multi-game exhibitions anytime soon. 

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EscherehcsE wrote:

I don't think anyone's mentioned an obvious reason for wanting to record your game moves. Don't you want to go over the game later and learn from your mistakes? Unless you can memorize the entire game long enough to transcribe it later, or unless you can get a copy of the game from your opponent afterwards (fat chance of that on a regular basis), the game will be lost to you.

I think most OTB players are able to recall an entire game for at least the next day or two after playing it. When you sit there and stare at a board for hours on end, calculating variations the entire time, it sticks with you. Not only that, when you move beyond the very beginner stage, the moves are all generally logical and so even if you forget a couple of them, you can fill in the blanks just by thinking a little.

I remember that before I began playing live tournaments, I was mystified by my friend's ability to do this, but after playing a couple of them, I learned it pretty quickly.

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joshuagambrell wrote:
EscherehcsE wrote:

I don't think anyone's mentioned an obvious reason for wanting to record your game moves. Don't you want to go over the game later and learn from your mistakes? Unless you can memorize the entire game long enough to transcribe it later, or unless you can get a copy of the game from your opponent afterwards (fat chance of that on a regular basis), the game will be lost to you.

I think most OTB players are able to recall an entire game for at least the next day or two after playing it. When you sit there and stare at a board for hours on end, calculating variations the entire time, it sticks with you. Not only that, when you move beyond the very beginner stage, the moves are all generally logical and so even if you forget a couple of them, you can fill in the blanks just by thinking a little.

I remember that before I began playing live tournaments, I was mystified by my friend's ability to do this, but after playing a couple of them, I learned it pretty quickly.

The ability to do that isn't as common as you might think. Maybe at a certain rating level. I can often remember most of the moves of a particluar game for a little while after it is played. Maybe a little longer if there is a particularly memorable position or tactic.

I've had games where I've messed up the notation badly, where I was able to fix it up to a point a few days after, but that is the exception, not the norm.

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The last time i played in a rated tournament the rule was that you had to write down your moves until you only had 5 minutes on your clock and then you could stop writing it down. Honestly i do a poor job of correctly writing down my notation but as long as you make the effort it doesn't count against you although it does prevent you from replaying the moves later on.

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sirrichardburton wrote:

The last time i played in a rated tournament the rule was that you had to write down your moves until you only had 5 minutes on your clock and then you could stop writing it down. Honestly i do a poor job of correctly writing down my notation but as long as you make the effort it doesn't count against you although it does prevent you from replaying the moves later on.

That is correct. If you or your opponent have less than 5 minutes on the clock in a sudden death time control (and don't have at least 30 seconds of increment or delay) then neither player has to notate.

However, if you do not have a complete scoresheet you can not make draw claims for 50 move or triple repetition, though they are still considered draw offers. There is also a rule for those draw claims that the scoresheet has to be accurate; there are a limited number of errrors (don't recall the number right off) that constitutes an accurate one.

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I have never tried playing whilst taking notes of all the moves that I and my opponent make, but I assume it’s probably quite stressing... I prefer playing here on Chess.com: it automatically registers my moves.

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Yeah, when I first started playing chess and recording the moves, I'd make 3-5 recording mistakes per game, on average. Now I seldom make recording mistakes. It does get easier.

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Hmm... To me, it sounds stressing. If you guys really think it's not, then maybe I should just try someday...

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Practice without the letters & numbers on the side of the board.

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One piece of advice I read long ago was to write your move in long form algebraic (Nf3-d4) before you move. Then look over the move one more time before actually making the move on the board. Helps prevent making poor moves.  

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Nah isn’t needed

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This came from 10 years ago why are we still responding, this forum is literally dead.
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LinMc wrote:

One piece of advice I read long ago was to write your move in long form algebraic (Nf3-d4) before you move. Then look over the move one more time before actually making the move on the board. Helps prevent making poor moves.

Actually a violation of USCF rules.

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Prathmesh2016 έγραψε:

Nah isn’t needed

Nah you are wrong.