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Isn't rude to prolong a game when checkmate is inevitable?

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kco
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Apr 3, 2010
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#61

never heard of it, you know what this resignation threads like, is more like "Groundhog Day"  

Perplexing
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Apr 3, 2010
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#62
KittyJones wrote:
OhJaime wrote:

I thought playing a game to the end was a good thing. What if my opponent would have made a mistake? I might have been forced into stalemate and would have a draw on my record instead of a loss. It seems to me that this person was toying with me.

I have a similar policy - I fight to the very end, even though the position is complete lost. Sorry...I'm stubborn :)

But I do believe your opponent's behaviour was rude and unnecessary. OhJaime, if you can tell me the opponent's username, I'll be sure to teach him/her a lesson :)

Yay, I fight to the death too!

goldendog
goldendog
Apr 3, 2010
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#63

The ghost of Suggo says "Hi!"

orangehonda
orangehonda
Apr 3, 2010
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#64
nuclearturkey wrote:
orangehonda wrote:

The only players who play with a lone king vs tons of material (and aren't meaning to be a spiteful arse) are beginners period.

Actually, I've played a few people who play until mate in all of their games, aren't beginners and definitely don't do it out of spite. One of these was around FIDE 1800. I'm not sure why they do it if they know they're going to lose, and I'm not arguing that it makes their actions not rude, just that it's not their intention to be rude...

Well frankly I don't believe you lol Tongue out this 1800 player you mean you saw him do it in some blitz games or he does it in all OTB tournament games?  He does it vs people rated 500 points lower than him but not vs an equal? etc?  I don't believe he just does it all the time because that's what he does... there's no way to not realize that's rude to an evenly matched player.  It's too obviously rude for someone to just operate that way obliviously.  Even though it doesn't matter if I believe it or not... I know a few players who operate that way too, they're the same ones that have trouble remembering what en passant is and how to castle queen side.

4 pages... these topics are awful.

kco
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Apr 3, 2010
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#65

I agreed orangehonda even is waken the dead.

RSJP
RSJP
Apr 3, 2010
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#66

It's up to the  player with the winning advantage how quickly he wants to end it.

kco
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Apr 3, 2010
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#67
RSJP wrote:

It's up to the  player with the winning advantage how quickly he wants to end it.

 well to me that is kind of a unprofessional thing to do, the aim of the game is to checkmate the opponent the quickest way possible.

RSJP
RSJP
Apr 3, 2010
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#68

well to me that is kind of a unprofessional thing to do, the aim of the game is to checkmate the opponent the quickest way possible.

kco, personally, I prefer to end things quickly and don't play around or mock my opponent if I have the winning advantage, and I won't feel insulted if the losing player refuses to resign. I'm just saying there is freedom of choice. If OhJamie chooses to play on and if she doesn't find any value or learning experience from someone who spites her, it's up to her to carry on or to resign.

kco
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Apr 3, 2010
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RSJP wrote:

well to me that is kind of a unprofessional thing to do, the aim of the game is to checkmate the opponent the quickest way possible.

kco, personally, I prefer to end things quickly and don't play around or mock my opponent if I have the winning advantage, and I won't feel insulted if the losing player refuses to resign. I'm just saying there is freedom of choice. If OhJamie chooses to play on and if she doesn't find any value or learning experience from someone who spites her, it's up to her to carry on or to resign.

That why I said, much earlier ago, that "I find both players rude" 

RSJP
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Apr 3, 2010
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kco wrote:
RSJP wrote:

well to me that is kind of a unprofessional thing to do, the aim of the game is to checkmate the opponent the quickest way possible.

kco, personally, I prefer to end things quickly and don't play around or mock my opponent if I have the winning advantage, and I won't feel insulted if the losing player refuses to resign. I'm just saying there is freedom of choice. If OhJamie chooses to play on and if she doesn't find any value or learning experience from someone who spites her, it's up to her to carry on or to resign.

That why I said, much earlier ago, that "I find both players rude" 

kco
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Apr 3, 2010
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#71

" if I have the winning advantage, and I won't feel insulted if the losing player refuses to resign."   That is your problem if you feel that way, just finish the game quickly as possible and move on to the next one.

RSJP
RSJP
Apr 3, 2010
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#72

kco, sorry, I'm still learning how to use this thing..They're not necessarily rude. OhJamie wanted to see how the more skilled opponent would end the game, and hopefully learn something new in the process. Unfortunately he misunderstood OhJaime's motives..I can't fault him either if he feels insulted..My opoinion is neither should  feel insulted..One can't be too sensitive.

RSJP
RSJP
Apr 3, 2010
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#73

" if I have the winning advantage, and I won't feel insulted if the losing player refuses to resign."   That is your problem if you feel that way, just finish the game quickly as possible and move on to the next one.

i don't look it at it as a problem..geez..lighten up, kco. it is just  game..i already told you I wouldn't prolong a game unnecessarily.

kco
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Apr 3, 2010
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#74

again ohjamie and the opponent didn't break any rules whatsoever, ohjamie have every right to see how it ended, the opponent have every right to end it anyway they like but to feel insulted (believing thier way is the right way, huh !)that person has problem with it, they should have just finish the the game quickly and show the person how it can be done. Look this can go for along time about this, so what the point ? I had enough. This my last post (just let you know) Cheers.   

edit: " if I have the winning advantage, and I won't feel insulted if the losing player refuses to resign." to RSJP oh that is good to hear. And don't tell me to lighten up, I feel fine. kco.

RSJP
RSJP
Apr 3, 2010
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#75

we don't disagree..cheers, mate..

theoreticalboy
theoreticalboy
Apr 3, 2010
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#76

I hope it's rude, because I plan on doing it to someone stalling in one of my games!

Dietmar
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Apr 3, 2010
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#77
rubygabbi wrote:

Here we go again, in this seemingly endless series of threads on the topic of resignation.

Reb, with all due respect for your level and experience, I cannot agree with your point of view: when you say "are considered 'rude/insulting," the question has to be who exactly considers it so? There is no book or official guidelines on "chess etiquette," so what you and others may consider rude/insulting are obviously not considered so by others. So, this issue remains, and most likely will continue to remain, a matter of personal taste, opinion and style.

There is a simple test in deciding what is rude. The test is:

Would you behave the same way in OTB chess when you are facing your opponent eye-to-eye?

Dietmar
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Apr 3, 2010
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#78
OhJaime wrote:

I agree with quixote88pianist; the point of the game is checkmate so I would expect a player to play until they have accomplished this goal.

I think in my case, my opponent was definitely making a point with his/her style of play. I, on the other hand, didn't even catch on to what my opponent was doing until much later. I was unaware of all these unwritten customs. In the future, I think I will recognize when someone is prolonging a game unneccessarily and resign before I'm reduced to making hopeless moves but, if I feel I have even the slightest chance at a draw I will fight on.

OhJaime, as you are a beginner I understand your perspective. As such you are entitled to make mistakes both playing the game and handling the issues away from the board. It is certainly not unreasonable to assume that beginners will stalemate an opponent. I have seen it many times and did it a few times myself when I was at your stage. However, you will know when you have progressed to a higher level when you would no longer dream of playing on in such a position because your focus will be how to avoid ending up in such a position to begin with.

kbalaiah
kbalaiah
Apr 3, 2010
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OhJaime wrote:

I was just playing Live Chess. I was losing pretty bad but, I'm a beginner so I decided to play the game to the end instead of resigning to learn tricks in the end game. I was down to only my king; my opponent still had a queen, 2 rooks and a few pawns. My opponent then began to try to promote his/her pawns while I could only make a handful of legal moves. He/she promoted one pawn to a bishop. After that I resigned. Was my opponent's behavior strange or just plain rude?

You shouldnot have resigned my dear.I used to tell my students not to giveup till the mate. Because there is allways a possiblity for stalemate,when the opponent is having more materials. if you have the scoresheet with you analyse it with Chess.com or with your friends or coach.Donot repeat it [ ie. resigning before mate]

wishes

Thirukkalathy.K.

Conflagration_Planet
Conflagration_Planet
Apr 3, 2010
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#80

There's no way to play chess in a rude way, as long as you're playing by the rules.