kasparov v deep blue 1990s

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does anyone have anything to say about any of the matches kasparov played against deep blue and deeper blue

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the eventual result in 1997 was 2 and a half to 3 and a half, deep blue won

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Kasparov's reaction to his loss is what made the match very amusing to me. But I wasn't into chess back then so I don't  really know the impact it had on the chess community--whether the true chessers had thought it inevitable, or whether they were as shocked as Kasparov?

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i think people would have found it a bit shocking but computers had developed alot in that decade

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As both a computer geek and a chess geek, I remember the match quite well. All respect to Kasparov, but I was rooting for Blue. One must remember that computer chess play was not all that great before Deep Blue came along. It was commonly believed that the first GM drubbing was still 20 years off, if it was to come at all.

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in game 6 Kasparov played badly and lost very early around the 19th move

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but it was 2 and a half each so was very dramatic

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It's funny to see the American flag in the first photo. Was the match also seen as a post-cold war competition between America and Russia?

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was this competition a sign that one day computers will own the game of chess

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Is it really fair to play a timed game against a CPU?

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not really but then the games would never end as the human would take more time

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According to Dan Heisman in his column here: http://www.chesscafe.com/text/heisman131.pdf

"To illustrate how engines have improved, at the first match in 1996 Deep Blue averaged 11- to 12-ply depth in about 90-120 seconds and the faster version 12- to 13-ply in 90 seconds when it won in 1997. Today's engines usually achieve that depth and more in less than a second."

In short, whatever engine you're running on your home PC right now would completely dominate Deep Blue. 

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I am only familiar with the match through documentaries. I thought it odd that they were allowed to tamper with the programming between games in at least one of the matches.

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I wonder how Deep Blue would compare with current chess engines. Houdini, and Fritz come to mind but I know there are others.

Andy

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Jamie,

I should have read your note before I posted my own. You answered my question.

Thanks Andy

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Well Kasparov generally outplayed the computer.. but the problem is computers don't make tactical mistakes.. ever.  They are perfect out to 12-13 ply or more and that kind of pressure on the human causes them to make the tinest of mistakes.. which the computer instantly jumps on. I'm not sure what the matches really proved to be honest.

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they should have the top engines playing against each other