King indian defense help

Is the KID really powerful if you really know how to use it?I find out white attack queenside always work against me and my attack kingside usually didn't work and my queenside position looks completely destroyed..with knight at c7 attacking the rook and all their pieces is annihilating me..Any tips how use this opening?

sorry I suppose to put this at chess openings

Moved

nvm but can someone help me plz

Statistically, KID is W-edged and rather bad for black:

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/chess-openings/indian-game-main-lines-transitions-and-statistical-evaluations

but if U know how to play it, it could be powerful (as any other reasonable non-drawish opening).

i won a game about a month ago (OTB) against a stronger player using the KID.

what you have to do is barricade his queen-side pawn storm and close the centre so it's easier for you to attack.

a good tip?

Well, there are some good books...

how do you share a game like that?I'm currently using a phone right now

I've switched to the KID recently. At higher GM level, perhaps it is suspect, but at normal GM level - which is well above my current standard of player - although I never say 'never'!

I think knowledge of the territory is the most important within certain boundaries, when it comes to choosing an opening. My change came about because I'm sick of drawing with black against white when he plays insipid - London System type stuff. So often I feel I've maximised my position without getting any traction. The KID is something I'm happy to play with or against.

Based on usual lines, white castles kingside and tries to break black on the queen-side, while black steams down the kingside. Black and white are often in a race, punctuated by moves that can serve as defensive as well attacking. I recall a remark from an Andrew Martin video; 'When you are making moves that serve attack and defence, you are starting to make it as a chess player..' (paraphrasing)

There can be some shadow boxing. IMPORTANT QUESTIONS: WHAT SHOULD EITHER SIDES FLANK PAWNS BE DOING ? TRYING TO PREVENT A BREAKTHROUGH OR CREATING ONE? WILL BLOCKING ONE FLANK AID ME OR MY OPPONENT? AND CAN I BE THE ONE DETERMINING PAWN 'BLOCKABILITY' OR FLUIDITY ?

As black, until I know where white's king goes I need to develop and deploy with my opponent still having both options open. Because the centre is usually blocked there are various middle-game themes:

1/ White castles king-side with black always castling kingside. Classic queen-side versus kingside player

2/White castles queen-side with pawn storms against each respective side

As white I like to leave black guessing what side I'm going and don't like committing too early. Often leaving the king in the middle of the game and behind. I know black will need to continue to be hedging his bets - as indeed will white.

For me, it's this interesting shadow boxing between the sides that makes the opening so interesting.

"King indian defense help"

We spell it "defence". Was that a help?

I play classically as white, castling k-side early, with an early g4 to block the king side in the Mar del Plata Variation. Then play to get the rooks off and, preferably, to remove black's strong bishop, which is the c8 one, and leave him with his weak g7 bishop, preferably against a knight.

I understand it's not as popular as it once was. Kasparov and Fischer liked the defence. I'm not aware it's popularity at this level has been renewed since. I correlate usage to some extent at this level to reflecting a greater degree of objectivity strength - as viewed by the chess gods. I am talking super GM level.

Nakamura, Grischuk, Ding Liren, sometimes play it with success.

Radjabov still continue to play it, he can be considered the world specialist on this defence since many years.

Even during Kasparov's area, there were few top GM playing KID, except Shirov (maybe Guelfand!).

KID has never been really popular at top level I think, doesnt mean it is refuted, it is just more risky thant most defence and requires deep preparation.

The K.I.D. is perfectly sound at any level but it can be very difficult to play, especially where black has to manoeuvre to counter white's play. I enjoy playing against it and yet I don't. I can play 15 moves of theory and yet the classical variation I play is an attempt to win by positional means and you have to be really careful not to push too hard on the q-side after white plays g4, because the thematic attack is either a sacrifice on g4 or e4, or a heavy-piece infiltration down the h-file, or both. The standard way of playing it, without g4, is hard to read for white, since black can go for broke and employ various combinations. After g4, black is forced to commit in some way or other and it's easier for white to read, but this doesn't mean that it's a loss for black. I think black can draw against any type of play, so it's sound. Very difficult for both sides.

What if in Samiech variation.White didn't castling and pawn storm like g4 h4 ?

I'm not exactly a great player, pretty average tbqh, but I tend to use the King's Indian system on white and black, and I can give you a few pointers about KID.

Really, what you have to watch out for is the aggressive material push. If White opens with a King's Pawn, White can push forward with the pawns, and possibly setup an attack that will put your king/queen and your rook in danger of being pinned at the same time. White will inevitably then gain a high material and positional advantage if you blunder and perform the KID in the inappropriate manner for the situation.

Perfectly playable. For example:

I just found out grunfeld is better than KiD

"Play the King's Indian" by Joe Gallagher explains all the common strategies and structures you'll see in a King's Indian game (including the usual battle with white storming the queenside and black storming the kingside).

It's worth reading if you're eager to get better at the KID.