So now Topalov can score a win by default just by offering to shake hands at the start of the game.
Check the official FIDE rules.
Kramnik: "I just don't respect him as a person"
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Shame on Kramnik.He is a hypocrite and cheater.He is a shame of chess.
Yeah right, but where is Morozevich? I still see Topalov playing in big tournaments, Alexander is too busy smiling like a model for the cameras... phah
Topalov has to say "sorry, i was wrong" and everybody will forgive him.
Kramnik could employ one of those buzzers
Aug 16, 2014
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I'd shake hands too but really poorly, like, barely, so he can still make sort of statement whilst not risking a point.
petrosianpupil wrote:
Whenever I hear Kramnik I am impressed by how he conducts himself. He clearly has great respect amongst his peers. Personally if I were him I would shake Topalovs hand as it is the rules and wouldn't want my team to risk losing a point. Worse than that I would hate for topalov to gain an advantage from his slime all antics.
Evidently, you don't hear Kramnik that much...
All I know is that Topalov >>>>>>> Kramnik at chess
Who has the higher live/peak rating? Topalov 2816.9 vs Kramnik's 2812.5
Who is currently higher rated? Topalov is rated 23 points higher now.
Who is dealing with aging better? Kramnik has been getting worse and worse whereas Topalov playing level is near his prime.
Who just won gold for the 1st board? Topalov.
Who is better looking? Topalov.
Who has more style? Topalov.
Who has their Driver's license? Topalov.
Kramnik is taller.
Superqueen500 wrote:
All I know is that Topalov >>>>>>> Kramnik at chess
Who has the higher live/peak rating? Topalov 2816.9 vs Kramnik's 2812.5
Who is currently higher rated? Topalov is rated 23 points higher now.
Who is dealing with aging better? Kramnik has been getting worse and worse whereas Topalov playing level is near his prime.
Who just won gold for the 1st board? Topalov.
Who is better looking? Topalov.
Who has more style? Topalov.
Who has their Driver's license? Topalov.
Who has been world champion?
Superqueen500 wrote:
All I know is that Topalov >>>>>>> Kramnik at chess
Who has the higher live/peak rating? Topalov 2816.9 vs Kramnik's 2812.5
Who is currently higher rated? Topalov is rated 23 points higher now.
Who is dealing with aging better? Kramnik has been getting worse and worse whereas Topalov playing level is near his prime.
Who just won gold for the 1st board? Topalov.
Who is better looking? Topalov.
Who has more style? Topalov.
Who has their Driver's license? Topalov.
Are you a little kid btw? Probably a troll too.
Clearly Kramnik is a better player in regards to all-time best players, and even now, when Kramnik is in his proper form (the candidates tournament in january 2013) he is better than Topalov.
Kramnik has accomplished many more important things than Topalov.
blueemu wrote:
So now Topalov can score a win by default just by offering to shake hands at the start of the game.
Check the official FIDE rules.
I don't see any rule stating 'must shake hands' unless it's some obscure interpretation of the sportsmanship rules. If there is such a rule that I'm missing then FIDE need to spend their time doing better things.
Aug 16, 2014
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I_Am_Second escribió:
Superqueen500 wrote:
All I know is that Topalov >>>>>>> Kramnik at chess
Who has the higher live/peak rating? Topalov 2816.9 vs Kramnik's 2812.5
Who is currently higher rated? Topalov is rated 23 points higher now.
Who is dealing with aging better? Kramnik has been getting worse and worse whereas Topalov playing level is near his prime.
Who just won gold for the 1st board? Topalov.
Who is better looking? Topalov.
Who has more style? Topalov.
Who has their Driver's license? Topalov.
Who has been world champion?
Both of them. In addition, Topalov is very kind, while people say Kramnik is too shy and obsessive person.
I'm 100% sure Kramnik would shake hands if it was offered to him, remember that!
Also, this comparison was hilarious hahahah! 100 years from now, people will only know Steinitz, Lasker, Capablanca... Fischer, Karpov, 13th Kasparov, 14th Kramnik, 15th Anand, 16th Carlsen... Topalov? Ah, challenger once (after googling him), "Talk to Charlie" guy...
Weeeeeeeeeeehhh!!!
Aug 16, 2014
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Well, he has been living for long here in Spain and when he was young he had to play a lot of opens all around the country to make money. I think he didn't have the same support as russians usually have in their country, so he raised from the bottom to reach the peak in chess . Because of this, he could be arrogant, but in some interviews i read, he turns to be very humble and close, while Kramnik seems to be very cold and proud of his skills (he can say he defeated Kasparov being 25, that's astonishing).
It's true that Topalov's behaviour in the "toiletgate" may not have been fair. But i can understand him, what would you think if your opponent leaves the board up to 40 times a game and then he comes and plays so strong?
Anyway, it's just my opinion.
Aug 16, 2014
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MSC157 escribió:
I'm 100% sure Kramnik would shake hands if it was offered to him, remember that!
Also, this comparison was hilarious hahahah! 100 years from now, people will only know Steinitz, Lasker, Capablanca... Fischer, Karpov, 13th Kasparov, 14th Kramnik, 15th Anand, 16th Carlsen... Topalov? Ah, challenger once, "Talk to Charlie" guy...
Challenger? There have been strong players that didn't become world champs, like Morphy, Pillsbury, Keres, Najdorf... And we remember all of them. Besides the fact that Topalov was world champion, he has been in top 10 for long, and i personally think his style is beautiful, one of the few top 100 players that plays in a romanticism-like way.
Vladimir Kramnik was interviewed on Norwegian television after taking the lead in the Norway Chess supertournament by defeating Fabiano Caruana. As Kramnik’s next game is against Veselin Topalov the conversation switched to the infamous “toiletgate” incident that marred the Kramnik-Topalov World Championship match back in 2006. Kramnik makes clear he hasn’t forgiven Topalov for the cheating accusations the Bulgarian leveled against him, and says he won't shake hands under any circumstances.
Vladimir Kramnik was interviewed by Cathrine Eide of TV2 after his Round 5 win against Caruana:
Cathrine Eide: You’re now leading the tournament. What are your thoughts about that?
Vladimir Kramnik: It’s still only half of the tournament and the lead is very small – just half a point – so I don’t really care so much about it. Of course winning a game against such a strong player as Fabiano is always nice, although I have to admit I was a bit lucky. I pressed the whole game, but he defended well and normally it should have been a draw. He probably just got tired by the end and made quite a serious blunder. So I had some luck today.
So you’re not happy?
No, I’m happy, but I’m usually happier to win because I play better not because I’m lucky. I’m also tired. It was a long, tough game. For the moment everything is going well but I’m not really thinking yet about winning the tournament. It’s a bit early to think about it.
Your next game is against Topalov. How do you feel about that?
Well, every game with Black here is not easy and of course he’s a dangerous player. Although he’s in last position now he can always strike and usually our games are very entertaining. I’m looking forward to a fight and we’ll see how it ends. In general, the main concern after this tough game today is just to recover well and to be fresh tomorrow.
With the toiletgate incident in mind how is your relationship with Topalov?
Not great, I have to admit (smiles). I don’t really see much potential of it getting better, but it’s ok, we can still play chess.
Do you want to make peace with him?
Hmmmmm, no! (laughs)
Will you shake his hand tomorrow?
I don’t think so.
Why not?
Well, I just don’t respect him as a person. I respect him as a chess player very much but I think his behaviour there was really awful and totally unsporting and since he never apologised for it it’s a matter of principle. I’m not going to shake his hand.
How is it sitting across a chessboard for hours on end with a man you don’t respect?
It’s ok (smiles), it’s business – nothing personal. In many areas you have to deal with people who you don’t respect. Of course he’s a strong opponent, so I don’t care. I just play a game against him and when I play chess anyway it’s never personal for me. Once it starts it’s just a game of chess so for me it doesn’t matter if I play against a friend or against somebody I don’t like. It’s the same for me.
If it’s not personal, why won’t you shake his hand?
It has nothing to do with chess. I’m not shaking his hand in any situation – not even when I play chess. For me chess and, let’s say, human life, are separated very clearly, so it has absolutely nothing to do with chess. It’s simply I’m not shaking his hand because I wouldn’t do it under any circumstances. It’s a story which is already old and I’m not emotional about it. I just don’t want to deal with him, that’s it – on no human basis. But there’s no problem for me playing chess with him.