Lack of Chess Etiquette. - Chess Forums - Page 2

jjupiter6

Oct 22, 2022

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#21

He hit me so I hit him back!!

wakuvvaku

Oct 22, 2022

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#22

RJones65 wrote:

CraigIreland wrote:

There's a contradiction in your rules of etiquette. You offer us rule no 2 then admit to breaking it in the next rule. In my opinion, your rules are too stringent and intricate to expect the entire community to follow. If etiquette is more tolerant then everyone can have a more enjoyable experience.

People who break etiquette do not deserve etiquette in return. If you bully a bully it is not bullying. It is defense. These aren't rules. What is so stringent about not cheating, not being a jerk?

I mean same can be said about the winning player. He's just punishing those who don't resign 'gracefully', or he just wants to be blunder proof, which you cant possibly blame.

archaja

Oct 22, 2022

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#23

What about this rule of good fair play?

"Don´t get angry with your opponent if he/she/it just plays within the rules. play on and do your best!

GoranRC

Oct 22, 2022

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#24

I was just in a game and I encountered this, so I wonder if it's considered bad etiquette or not.

I was in a completely winning position in a game, where the opponent knew this. They found a way to repeat moves via checks, and repeated them until the game automatically went to a draw. -- There was absolutely no way I could have moved anywhere else, since I was trapped.

In a winning position, I see this as unsportsmanlike. A way to make it a draw via "repetition of moves", rather then skill of play.

I could be wrong, and some people might say "It's part of the game". - Let me know your thoughts on this!

MorningGlory84

Oct 22, 2022

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#25

It wasn't a winning position if he could do that.

GravyTraining

Oct 22, 2022

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#26

People like GothamChess, Hikaru, and many other highly skilled players will tell you to never resign. I've both won and lost games that would have been resigned in over the board play but someone messed something up.

As for saying GG, I used to do it every game but no one ever responded so I stopped. Many people just have chat turned off because people can be so toxic.

If you're not having fun playing, you should play elsewhere or find another game. Either update your expectations to match reality or make another decision. Overall, yes, there's a few annoying and potentially rude from my perspective players, but for the most part people here are great.

GravyTraining

Oct 22, 2022

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#27

GoranRC wrote:

I was just in a game and I encountered this, so I wonder if it's considered bad etiquette or not.

I was in a completely winning position in a game, where the opponent knew this. They found a way to repeat moves via checks, and repeated them until the game automatically went to a draw. -- There was absolutely no way I could have moved anywhere else, since I was trapped.

In a winning position, I see this as unsportsmanlike. A way to make it a draw via "repetition of moves", rather then skill of play.

I could be wrong, and some people might say "It's part of the game". - Let me know your thoughts on this!

By definition, if he could force a draw, it wasn't winning, it was a draw.

archaja

Oct 22, 2022

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#28

Maybe if you played 29. Rd8 and force your opp to change more material it would have been a "winning" position, but you played different and I honor your opp that he/she saw the possibilty to repeat moves. That deserves the draw.

wakuvvaku

Oct 22, 2022

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#29

GoranRC wrote:

I was just in a game and I encountered this, so I wonder if it's considered bad etiquette or not.

I was in a completely winning position in a game, where the opponent knew this. They found a way to repeat moves via checks, and repeated them until the game automatically went to a draw. -- There was absolutely no way I could have moved anywhere else, since I was trapped.

In a winning position, I see this as unsportsmanlike. A way to make it a draw via "repetition of moves", rather then skill of play.

I could be wrong, and some people might say "It's part of the game". - Let me know your thoughts on this!

You were lucky to get a draw since you literally could not win from that position

many_hanging_pieces

Oct 22, 2022

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#30

GoranRC wrote:

I was just in a game and I encountered this, so I wonder if it's considered bad etiquette or not.

I was in a completely winning position in a game, where the opponent knew this. They found a way to repeat moves via checks, and repeated them until the game automatically went to a draw. -- There was absolutely no way I could have moved anywhere else, since I was trapped.

In a winning position, I see this as unsportsmanlike. A way to make it a draw via "repetition of moves", rather then skill of play.

I could be wrong, and some people might say "It's part of the game". - Let me know your thoughts on this!

They only had a way to repeat moves because you allowed it. It is part of the game and you will likely have situations where you get a draw from a lost position.

33. Kh1 wins on the spot (your bishop protects the h2 pawn) and the c pawn can't be stopped.

RJones65

Oct 22, 2022

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#31

wakuvvaku wrote:

RJones65 wrote:

CraigIreland wrote:

There's a contradiction in your rules of etiquette. You offer us rule no 2 then admit to breaking it in the next rule. In my opinion, your rules are too stringent and intricate to expect the entire community to follow. If etiquette is more tolerant then everyone can have a more enjoyable experience.

People who break etiquette do not deserve etiquette in return. If you bully a bully it is not bullying. It is defense. These aren't rules. What is so stringent about not cheating, not being a jerk?

I mean same can be said about the winning player. He's just punishing those who don't resign 'gracefully', or he just wants to be blunder proof, which you cant possibly blame.

So take out your frustrations on someone who did nothing to you? Yeah, no.

RJones65

Oct 22, 2022

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#32

GoranRC wrote:

I was just in a game and I encountered this, so I wonder if it's considered bad etiquette or not.

I was in a completely winning position in a game, where the opponent knew this. They found a way to repeat moves via checks, and repeated them until the game automatically went to a draw. -- There was absolutely no way I could have moved anywhere else, since I was trapped.

In a winning position, I see this as unsportsmanlike. A way to make it a draw via "repetition of moves", rather then skill of play.

I could be wrong, and some people might say "It's part of the game". - Let me know your thoughts on this!

This is part of the game. It sucks, but part of the game. The old saying "winning isn't everything..." applies to chess. Sometimes you play a great game and lose, other times you play lousy, get lucky and win. It's just the way it is.

wakuvvaku

Oct 22, 2022

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#33

RJones65 wrote:

wakuvvaku wrote:

RJones65 wrote:

CraigIreland wrote:

There's a contradiction in your rules of etiquette. You offer us rule no 2 then admit to breaking it in the next rule. In my opinion, your rules are too stringent and intricate to expect the entire community to follow. If etiquette is more tolerant then everyone can have a more enjoyable experience.

People who break etiquette do not deserve etiquette in return. If you bully a bully it is not bullying. It is defense. These aren't rules. What is so stringent about not cheating, not being a jerk?

I mean same can be said about the winning player. He's just punishing those who don't resign 'gracefully', or he just wants to be blunder proof, which you cant possibly blame.

So take out your frustrations on someone who did nothing to you? Yeah, no.

I never said that. It's just to show your rules and justification of the rules are unsound.

RJones65

Oct 22, 2022

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#34

This wasn't a social experiment, but it kind of turned into one. Just from the responses I can tell who has poor chess etiquette. Lol.

jjlegato

Oct 22, 2022

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#35

RJones65 wrote:

This wasn't a social experiment, but it kind of turned into one. Just from the responses I can tell who has poor chess etiquette. Lol.

You can't. Lol.

AussieMatey

Oct 22, 2022

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#36

Yes, Goran, you were in a completely winning position, and all you had to do was play the simple 31.d7 and White wins without even thinking. The finish of that game, RJ, shows exactly what can happen when one plays the erroneous 31.b5? and tries to promote too many pawns.

Hoffmann713

Oct 23, 2022

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#37

Chess.com is a server, open to all who want to play chess, each of which has his own way of seeing our game. What everyone must respect are the only SHARED rules, that is, the Rules of the Game of Chess, and the “house rules” ( the server politics ). There is no point in feeling frustrated. Exemple: personally I always resign in a hopless position, but if one want to continue to the end, what's the problem ? Everyone plays the way they like best.

Part of chess “etiquette” rules are questionable for many.

neatgreatfire

Oct 23, 2022

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#38

RJones65 wrote:

jjlegato wrote:

RJones65 wrote:

No, not at all because many times the person winning is not trying to promote all of his pawns once they know they are clearly going to get a win. They are just trying to win the game. Not trying to be a wiseguy. They are either waiting for the person to resign or to get a CM.

So, what's your 2nd point about then? You wrote that if a player finds himself in a hopelessly lost position, they should be a man/women about it and just resign. And correct me if I am wrong, but allowing your opponent to promote all their remaining pawns to queens doesn't sound like a position you would be able to win (most of us wouldn't), although, yes, there is a theoretical chance of your opponent stalemating you if they are clumsy.
I still do think there is a contradiction between these two rules.

They should resign when their opponent is playing fair and not being a jerk trying to promote all of their remaining pawns. I don;t know how much clearer I can be. Personally, for me I'll allow two rooks, two queens, but once I see another pawn coming down they'll watch the clock. I believe that's more than fair.

these people are rated 700 lmao

half of them probably don't know how to checkmate "normally" and instead promote all their pawns and then make random moves until they mate you lol

MoveNotToMove

Oct 23, 2022

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#39

If your opponent doesn't resign in a lost position where you can promote 2 or 3 pawns, then move your pawns and he should resign immediately.

That one is the same who complains for people not resigning in a completely lost position.

Wits-end

Oct 23, 2022

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#40

jjlegato wrote:

RJones65 wrote:

This wasn't a social experiment, but it kind of turned into one. Just from the responses I can tell who has poor chess etiquette. Lol.

You can't. Lol.

Forget chess for just a moment please. I want to know if you ended up buying the guitar!