Lately I've stopped enjoying chess

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I know this is disturbing but lately I've stopped enjoying the absolutely great game of chess. I'll be frank. I love playing dynamic sharp positions but I'm ending up in closed, stale positions. Or dead positions such as the French exchange etc. I wonder if others can relate to this and what they did to overcome this.

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then you should change things up, ie; explore different openings.    there is so much in chess  and  so many different styles.     

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The French Exchange is hard. If White wants to give you equality on move two in hopes of creating boredom, there’s nothing that you can do. Even so, it often gives Black a chance to aim for a quick mating attack.
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IMO there are 2 general approaches.

First is to learn more about the "boring" position. You might be surprised to find that GM have lost/won against other GMs in these positions (yes, even the french exchange). Once you know the mechanisms of playing for a win, it becomes more interesting again.


Second is to add some imbalanced openings to your knowledge. That way when you feel like playing a complicated game your opponent can't stop you. When I'm in a mood like that I'll open with 1.Nf3 (or 1...Nf6) or 1.g3 (or 1...g6) and importantly, when you do this, you can't be afraid of getting a position the engine doesn't like. Your only real goal is to get an uncommon position. (although some knoweldge here helps too, like Retis and gurgundenzi caros)

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agreed

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How can you be Frank when I don't reckon that's your name at all?

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RedGirlZ wrote:

If u want to enjoy chess again, I would suggest forget all opening theory. Play wonky openings like the dutch, etc, so the positions are different, unbalanced in terms of whats on the board, position etc, and don't create pawn structures that force u into closed games, like as you already pointed out the french.  I usually play the Queens Gambit as white, and most of those games are closed but I find those entertaining. 

Just either forget all opening theory and play whatever u feel like, or only study openings that lead to wide open positions, like Sicilians for black if u face e4,

that's actually true. i recently bought the dvd 'bamboozle your opponent with 1.g3' by nigel davies.

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stiggling wrote:

IMO there are 2 general approaches.

First is to learn more about the "boring" position. You might be surprised to find that GM have lost/won against other GMs in these positions (yes, even the french exchange). Once you know the mechanisms of playing for a win, it becomes more interesting again.

 

One of my favorite miniatures is in the French Exchange:
Tatai,Stefano (2455) -- Kortschnoj,Viktor (2665) [C01]
Beersheba (6), 1978

1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.exd5 exd5 4.Bd3 c5 5.Nf3 Nc6 6.Qe2+ Be7 7.dxc5 Nf6 8.h3 0–0 9.0–0 Bxc5 10.c3 Re8 11.Qc2 Qd6

White to move
Useful001.jpg


12.Nbd2 Qg3 13.Bf5 Re2 14.Nd4 Nxd4 0–1

Whan I have the Black side of the Exchange French, having my queen and two minor pieces arranged on c5, c6, and d6 as in the diagram above fills me with confidence, especially when White voluntarily weakens the g3 square with h2-h3 (see "Find the Blow").

Last night in the first round of the Turkey Quads at the Spokane Chess Club, this game was brought back into my memory.

There was a bit of irony.


Pasted from http://chessskill.blogspot.com/2016/11/useful-knowledge.html, where I present a game that used Kortschnoj's idea from the White side and got away with it.

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Ziryab wrote:
stiggling wrote:

IMO there are 2 general approaches.

First is to learn more about the "boring" position. You might be surprised to find that GM have lost/won against other GMs in these positions (yes, even the french exchange). Once you know the mechanisms of playing for a win, it becomes more interesting again.

 

One of my favorite miniatures is in the French Exchange:
Tatai,Stefano (2455) -- Kortschnoj,Viktor (2665) [C01]
Beersheba (6), 1978

1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.exd5 exd5 4.Bd3 c5 5.Nf3 Nc6 6.Qe2+ Be7 7.dxc5 Nf6 8.h3 0–0 9.0–0 Bxc5 10.c3 Re8 11.Qc2 Qd6

White to move
 


12.Nbd2 Qg3 13.Bf5 Re2 14.Nd4 Nxd4 0–1

Whan I have the Black side of the Exchange French, having my queen and two minor pieces arranged on c5, c6, and d6 as in the diagram above fills me with confidence, especially when White voluntarily weakens the g3 square with h2-h3 (see "Find the Blow").

Last night in the first round of the Turkey Quads at the Spokane Chess Club, this game was brought back into my memory.

There was a bit of irony.


Pasted from http://chessskill.blogspot.com/2016/11/useful-knowledge.html, where I present a game that used Kortschnoj's idea from the White side and got away with it.

(To anyone following that link, be sure to remove the comma at the end)

Yeah, I used to play the c4 exchange french. I scored well with it.

Here's an exchange French game where Naka continues to weave a mating net even after the queens are exchanged!

 

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you should have gone for the head

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Openings have little effects on creative or fighting chess. Players should study creative GMs games to improve their creativity. Tal, Kasparov, Shirov, Topalov, Moresevich are among the most creative players. I also recommend studying Creative Chess Strategy by GM Romero. Chess Informants Best 1000 Games would be appreciated.

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I know how you feel, when I played chess years ago (I'm only 16 but hey) I was taught the Scandinavian and London System and got so sick of it that I stopped playing chess. Started playing again towards the end of last year and just decided I'm going to start afresh, 10/10 most I have ever enjoyed chess. Would highly recommend you do the same.

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I wonder how Yasser Seirawan spells Victor Korchnoi's name.  

 

Is it Viktor or Victor?

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What about an other strategy game time to time ?

The go for example

I'm desperately trying to find people to play machiavelli chess (djambi) with. The whole theory is to be explored yet, from openings to end. It's traditionnal to be played by 4 but with 2 players it's also extremely interesting

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KInd of a fresh air that might give some ideas, or at least fresh air to go back to traditionnal chess as eager as before

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Chess 960 is an option to "not study openings". Go lacks character.

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Honestly,this happens with almost any endeavor.Maybe take a short break,or stop worrying about losses and play for pleasure....or.....Just play me and your rating will go up.-happy.png

Good luck.

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chess is stupid game

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What is an intelligent game or sports? Recreation or unwinding means we act as children for a while. Then return to the adult world to face competition and challenges.

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DeirdreSkye wrote:

    Yeah play wonky openings to enjoy chess. Not improving is very enjoyable indeed!

    Chess is a complicated sport. It's not tic tac toe or backgammon so it's not up to you what positions to play. The pleasure of chess is studying what you don't understand.

     Years ago when I was kid I really hated French exchange. For the ignorant I was , it was a drawish and boring line. A very good IM showed me a few things and advised me to study it a little deeper. Well , I was surprised from what I discovered. A deep strategic position with a lot of winning chances for both players.

      I was blind , just like you are. The good thing with me was that I didn't have chess.com forums to waste my time complaining instead of trying to study what I didn't understand. 

 

How can I study this without the aid of a coach. I'm currently not meeting up with my coach it's been a while. I do have Chessbase but unfortunately lack the skill and acumen for using it properly.