^^ But in some places everything and everyone must be categorised. Case in point, the juvenile posts that talk about Carlsen fanboys and Naka fans. You can't just have a general interest.
Lichess is a joke compare to Chess.com in terms of rating strength and improvement !
I play on both sites. I pay here, it's free on Lichess. I turn chat off here, because of the mouthy kids and poor sports. Lichess doesn't have that problem, so I leave chat on. I'm better than 90% of players on this site and better than 55% of players on Lichess, which infers the playing pool is stronger on Lichess. The level of play is also more consistent at Lichess. All that said, I financially support this site because it does much to grow our game. I'm not naive, I know the owners have a vested self-interest in growing chess. It's just that I'm willing to help them get rich if it means chess popularity grows across the globe.
Both sites are excellent for play and offer abundant resources for improvement. When ratings are understood for what they are—a statistical system that predicts expected performance on the basis of past results—instead of some absolute measure of skill, foolishness like the title of this thread occurs less often.
I have played about ten times as many games at chessdotcom as Lichess, but enjoy both (I’ve also been on this site twice as long—fifteen years to seven). I use both for playing chess with my students and for developing teaching resources. Neither site is a joke. Nothing keeps you from playing at both sites.
Back to the subject of ratings, I would say that it's harder to achieve a certain percentile on lichess Blitz, but easier to achieve a certain rating on lichess, when it comes to average, to better than average (but not ridiculous) players. 1500 Blitz players here are just better than 1500 Blitz players on lichess, although I think players here are overall not as skilled as lichess players. At those average to "above average but not ridiculous" levels, I find it much easier to perform at a higher percentile here than on lichess.
I play on both sites. I pay here, it's free on Lichess. I turn chat off here, because of the mouthy kids and poor sports. Lichess doesn't have that problem, so I leave chat on. I'm better than 90% of players on this site and better than 55% of players on Lichess, which infers the playing pool is stronger on Lichess. The level of play is also more consistent at Lichess. All that said, I financially support this site because it does much to grow our game. I'm not naive, I know the owners have a vested self-interest in growing chess. It's just that I'm willing to help them get rich if it means chess popularity grows across the globe.
Chess.com percentile is based on all users who have gained a rating in the past 90 days. While Lichess is based on players who played in the last week.
I find it difficult to complete the two because of connection issues. I'm a 1300 bullet player on chess.com because of the terrible lag. On lichess I'm at 2000. I enjoy lichess because of the much quicker servers. I like chess.com due to the layout. Maybe once they get the server problems fixed I will play again on chess.com
They use different rating system, and chesscom uses an older version. Different systems, different sample group, different UI.. you can't compare player strength using online ratings in that fashion.
The difference between 2 sites is not steady 300 or 400 rating actually. It depends on the rating. Lower than around chess.com 1300 rating the difference is around 300-350 but at around 1700 the difference is around 200, at around 2000 on chess.com difference is around 100. So the difference is also changing. It actually decreases on higer ratings. So there is not a constant rating difference.
And also player style effects the difference a bit. Ie.
I'm around 1650 at lichess bullet, 1450 here,
1850 at lichess blitz, 1650 here,
1950 at lichess rapid, 1550 here,
(I didn't play rapid here recently.)
So for my ratings the difference is around 200 points. But I know at lower ratings difference can go up to 400. And decreases to 100 or even 50 at higher ratings.
Those 2k players on lichess are weak. Those 800s are not 800s on here. Lichess 800s blunder and use scholar mate. Lichess kids are weak. I beat a 1600s in bullet when I was in the lower rated section. Lichess forum is empty. On here, cc forums is big. Lichess is way weaker than cc.
It's naive to compare two fundamentally different rating systems.
And their forums are empty indeed, which is quite a good thing: spamming, trolling, egotripping (which is what 95% of the posts here are about) are not welcome there.
I don't understand people who are saying , that Lichess blitz ratings are harder to achieve, it must be a joke !
No matter what level you are it's so much easier to achieve higher ( artificially inflated) blitz rating on Lichess, then Chess.com .
I won so many games just by keeping a knight left , even tho I run out of time , I still won, where's on chess.com it would be a draw and no points given for a win !
Sorry who is saying this did you find it on made it up your self
up dot com it is a different pool the ratings are different
Comparing chess.com to lichess is sort of pointless. It's similar to comparing Windows to Linux. People use what they like better, and some of us run both Windows & Linux and also use both chess.com and lichess. It doesn't always have to be an either/or thing. Often times, things complement themselves in life quite well.