London system scrubs

Sorry, my English does not match yours. I got it more or less like "Nut***" alone. ;)

I did not think this set up against a KID set up was still branded "Torre". I had the two simple variations I showed you with little fear of a kingside attack. So, personally, I do not take it as a serious argument for switching from 1...Nf6 to 1...g6 (since I don't want to learn a bunch of Modern theory).

Also, please note that the London System can be played rather aggressively as well. In many cases, white sets up a c3-d4-e3-f4 pawn structure with a knight on e5, achieving the Pillsbury Attack. 

It may work if your opponent is not well booked up, but if he is, your position is objectivly bad. There's many other gambits that is objectivly sound, and can still catch your opponent off guard.

lol, Carlsen just played the london against Giri, i assume he's also a scrub?

I can't find the game unfortunately. Link? 

https://chess24.com/en/watch/live-tournaments/9th-bilbao-masters-2016/9/1/2

I have NOT played the london much.  but you guys with your silly freakouts about the opening make me wonder if I should.

It is ALWAYS dangerous in any opening to have some kind mental breakdown about the opening, which as been pointed to by many people, is only to get to a playable middlegame.

and here you blabber on and on, about how stodgy and boring the solid london opening is.  OMG guys you must like blundering against an opponent how has a clear, obvious and practical way to get all his peices developed.

I recommend you ignore RNA's well said advice.  ? how dangerous could an attack named after a 19th master be?? no Rant against an opening as a SYSTEMS opening irregardless of its actual strength (or whether you have ANY idea on who to play aginst them) and don't bother studying anything about either the london or what black should do, because its clear that white will only settle for a draw.

of course should you decide to idly prep a little for the london, surely you can memorize the first 20 moves, cause the game is so boring.  there's no chance of any one playing it creatively, or looking for weakness in your own game.  no for you, chess is all memorizing.

So feel free to memorize one long line.

.... and if you did all this I would SO play the london.  you would be chum and I would be a shark.

I picked up the London recently, and the reason is becuase i do not like studying openings.  Before that it was the Colle-Zukertort.  All i heard was how badthey are, how no GM plays them, they are weak, "its a system, not an opening"

I had to point out that im not playing GM's so what do i care if it isnt a "GM level" opening.  I read these posts, and its post after post how GM's dont play it, its not played at top level chess.  

My question is...How many of you are playing GM's, and against top level chess that you think the London isnt a valid opening?

Because he's right!  Offer a draw on move 3 and get on with life is their apparent attitude.  The London System is good for nothing else.  If you are in the final round, and a draw gets you clear first, and you are White, I might see some SLIGHT logic to playing it.  Otherwise, L is for London System, L is for Loser!  Coincidence?  I think not!

you thought I was trying to convince you?

No.

I was envisioning playing the london against someone who thought like you did, once I learned a little more about it and I was enjoying myself.

I play QGD and its a little hard to give up the ability to play cxd at Just the right moment.  I also don't randomly switch openings for just the reason diakona suggests.  time spent memorizing theory is poorly used.  but I bet you don't believe that either.

There is ONE opening for Black that the London System is actually "bad" against, NOT EVEN EQUAL!  London System guru Cyrus Lakdawala even says it himself, and many others have used this line of defense against the London System with great success, including the legend of the defense Duncan Suttles himself.

Whenever I am playing a local player that I know plays literally nothing but the London System, I specifically play the Modern Defense, and specifically the following line, which is actually a slight advantage for Black - even the London Guru agrees the London can't be played against this:

They must think they are making chess great again by playing the London System.

Problem is, they are just as much clowns at the game as Trump is a complete and utter retarded clown to the rest of the world other than the few brainwashed supporters, just like how the supporters of the London System are all brainwashed!

wow some people really dislike the London System ;o

Come on...if the system is named after a top player of the 19th century, it must be bad? But your logic, the Ruy Lopez most be a horrible opening as it was invented by a Spanish Priest back in the 16th century.