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long_quach wrote:
nikramat wrote:

By adding a few rules to the game, I believe this variation could make a revolutionary impact on the game flow, adding intrigue and unpredictability.

The rules of this variation are easy to understand and absorb but require continuous computation that will require the development and implementation of a chess game server.

You don't have a prototype but you touting all its features.

What the hell is this?

Is lying a normal thing now?

You are so quick on judgement. Did you read carefully the initial post? Are you either professional developer or attorney? Anyway, feel free not to waste your time on nothing and concentrate on more important things in your life

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AbominableChessmasta wrote:

long_quach wrote: AbominableChessmasta wrote:

Even if you patented the game, someone could come along and do a variation of your variation. ("It's like softball, but you pitch overhand." All they got to do is just tweak it a bit.)

What I would do is find a chess club that credits its members. You introduce this variation to the club, it becomes the "new thing". You expand it nationally/globally and become famous, and you get your fortunes that way, like Ray Kroc.

You can only make money on a product. A box in store.

You cannot make money on the rules.


I am not sure that is entirely true. You could make a software program with different rules, and then sell the software. Stockfish has already sued Chessbase for something much more "mundane" than rules. Computer engines don't have a bias towards pieces. They plug in the rules of the games and calculate them to precision accuracy. While the sequence of moves can't be copyrighted, similar to broadcasting moves after they are made in an event, the application applying those rules could be patented.

You can google the following (I can't paste addresses yet), "A software patent will cost anywhere from $6,000 to $12,000 and possibly upwards of $10,000 in patent lawyer legal fees. According to the American Intellectual Property Law Association, the median cost for a software patent is $10,000 and include the filing fees for the patent application." - upcounselDOTcom

AbominableChessmasta: Thank you for your concerns and suggestions

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nikramat wrote:
 

AbominableChessmasta: Thank you for your concerns and suggestions

I have a suggestion for you:

Make a prototype.

Are you going to thank me?

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putshort wrote:
9000 USD to have a lawyer file a patent. Is it worth it?

Is it proposal, or just a question? So far, I am not certain of right figures. It looks like the list of things I need to achieve is longer then I thought initially

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RonaldJosephCote wrote:

Sapose he does create the software. I'm wondering if 2 other forms of protection might be the easiest & cheaper way to go...? Maybe it can be copyrighted, or trademarked. At least that would give him SOME protection.

Good question. If the idea was about design or shape of the board or pieces then maybe yes. However, implementing new rules requires either patenting it, or share it for free with the world. It could be other options, I guess. That's why I am looking for new opinions and suggestions

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long_quach wrote:
nikramat wrote:
 

AbominableChessmasta: Thank you for your concerns and suggestions

I have a suggestion for you:

Make a prototype.

Are you going to thank me?

Making a prototype was initially in my list "to do". However, I can't do it myself. Then , I was suggested to make a provisional patent first, then find a developer or a software company that could implement the idea. You think you can help?

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magipi wrote:

If you are looking for a patent attorney, the best place for it is a chess site. Everybody knows that.

I am open to any suggestion that would work. Thank you

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But there’s a search engine for patent attorneys in the dc area. Are you really looking for someone to recommend someone?
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You can save the money and avoid an attorney. Just hire a nerd gang.

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Contact - Dewey, Cheatam and Howe patent attorneys. 😉
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Marrswolf wrote:
Contact - Dewey, Cheatam and Howe patent attorneys. 😉

Nakamura could use them to defend against Kramnik's cheating allegation.

Their (fictitious) motto, "If you can't beat'em, cheatam!!"