The WCC will eventually come unless nakamura catches up in development or aronian figures out a way to beat him. The rating record is in itself a great accomplishment.
Magnus = Great
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Estragon wrote:
Reb wrote:
Carlsen's rating of 2861 will officially appear in the FIDE January rating list. It is not just the number – inflation takes its toll – but the gap he opened on the other players. Vladimir Kramnik is 51 points behind. In 1972, Bobby Fischer was 125 points ahead of Boris Spassky, his nearest contender. Adding inflation, Fischer's rating would hover around 2880 today. Garry Kasparov rose to his record rating of 2851 in 1999, 80 points above Vishy Anand.
From Chessbase : http://chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=8707
This is Kavalek's opinion (possibly bolstered by the ridiculous Chessmetrics which also estimates von Bardeleven's peak at 2714), not Chessbase's, and is laughable. Fischer was only 29 when he stopped playing. He could have played Karpov, Timman, Korchnoi in his prime, Ivanchuk, Kasparov, Anand, Kramnik, and Topalov, but he refused.
All those super-GMs showed up at tournament after tournament where organizers would have paid any price in cash and conditions to host Fischer, too. But the nutbar was too freaked out or just plain chicken-poop.
You dont believe there is inflation in ratings today ? I do as do many others . You are entitled to your opinion just as I , and others, are to theirs. One simple fact though is that Karpov's peak rating never surpassed Fischer's peak rating so how can anyone hold that Karpov would have beaten him ? If Fischer had continued playing his rating certainly would have risen and he would have broken 2800 easily . As to why he quit playing I dont think anyone knows , for sure, maybe not even he knew . I do believe he was fed up with FIDE and simply didnt want to deal with them anymore .
ForgoneMoose wrote:
ITT: grammatically challenged nerds insult each other over something that I don't even remember after so many pages, and I kind of think that they don't either at this point Back on topic; I, for one, accept our new Carlsen overlord.
Gramatically challenged? Congratulations, you win the "worst attempt of trying to sound smart award".
FYI it takes a long time to educate idiots. It is just you who fail to follow the connections within this thread.
Seriously Melk0r, nobody wants to hear your crap, you're boring.
Scottrf wrote:
Seriously Melk0r, nobody wants to hear your crap, you're boring.
I enjoy these arguments, so speak for yourself.
I think Magnus is going to have trouble winning against Kramnik in the coming years until Kramnik retires
Reb wrote:
Carlsen's rating of 2861 will officially appear in the FIDE January rating list. It is not just the number – inflation takes its toll – but the gap he opened on the other players. Vladimir Kramnik is 51 points behind. In 1972, Bobby Fischer was 125 points ahead of Boris Spassky, his nearest contender. Adding inflation, Fischer's rating would hover around 2880 today. Garry Kasparov rose to his record rating of 2851 in 1999, 80 points above Vishy Anand.
From Chessbase : http://chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=8707
Wrong! In 1972 Bobby Fischer was "only" 95 points ahead of Bent Larsen (#2, while Boris V. Spassky was #3).
@ Melk0r: As you don't get my points it's useless to discuss. You don't understand any argument because you might be totally wrong!
July 1972 FIDE rating list. Top 6 players
1 Fischer Robert James.............. USA 2785
2 Spassky, Boris.................... URS 2660
3-4 Petrosian, Tigran................. URS 2645
Polugaevsky, Lev.................. URS 2645
5-6 Kortchnoi, Viktor................. URS 2640
Portisch, Lajos................... HUN 2640
goldendog wrote:
July 1972 FIDE rating list. Top 6 players
1 Fischer Robert James.............. USA 2785
2 Spassky, Boris.................... URS 2660
3-4 Petrosian, Tigran................. URS 2645
Polugaevsky, Lev.................. URS 2645
5-6 Kortchnoi, Viktor................. URS 2640
Portisch, Lajos................... HUN 2640
Wrong! You missed: 2 Larsen, Bent DEN 2690
Larsen was 2625. 2695 is above his peak rating.
| Full name | Jørgen Bent Larsen |
|---|---|
| Country | Denmark |
| Born | March 4, 1935 Tilsted near Thisted, Denmark |
| Died | September 9, 2010 (aged 75) Buenos Aires |
| Title | Grandmaster |
| Peak rating | 2660 (January 1971) |
Scottrf wrote:
Larsen was 2625. 2695 is above his peak rating.
No! July 1972 Larsen, Bent DEN 2690. (Source: Chess Informant 14 which shows FIDE July 1972 ELO-rating:)
Even Wiki can be wrong! xD
January 1972 - FIDE Rating List
1 . Fischer, Robert James USA : 2785
2 . Spassky, Boris V URS : 2660
3 . Petrosian, Tigran URS : 2645
4 . Polugaevsky, Lev URS : 2645
5 . Korchnoi, Viktor URS : 2640
July 1972 - FIDE Rating List
1. Fischer, Robert James g USA 2785
2. Spassky, Boris V. g URS : 2660
3. Petrosian, Tigran g URS : 2645
. . Polugaevsky, Lev g URS : 2645
5. Portisch, Lajos g HUN : 2640
. . Korchnoi, Viktor g URS : 2640
http://fidelists.blogspot.com/2008/01/july-1972-fide-rating-list.html
I didn't use Wiki, I used Google. Try it.
pos Player_ID Name Title Fed Rtng +/- gms Birthday Sex Flag 1 Fischer, Robert James g USA 2785 +25 1943.03.09 2 Spassky, Boris V. g URS 2660 -30 1937.01.30 3 Petrosian, Tigran g URS 2645 +5 1929.06.17 3= Polugaevsky, Lev g URS 2645 +5 1934.11.20 5 Portisch, Lajos g HUN 2640 +10 1937.04.04 5= Korchnoi, Viktor g URS 2640 -30 1931.03.23 7 Botvinnik, Mikhail g URS 2630 0 1911.08.17 7= Karpov, Anatoly g URS 2630 +90 1951.05.23 9 Larsen, Bent g DEN 2625 -35 1935.03.04 9= Tal, Mikhail N. g URS 2625 +5 1936.11.09
http://www.olimpbase.org/Elo/Elo197207e.html
I still think Chess Informant 14 is right!
Who did those Blogs and when?
Questions over questions ... 
Chess Informator is correct. Larsen=2625.
I have the pdf in front of me.
Carlsen's rating of 2861 will officially appear in the FIDE January rating list. It is not just the number – inflation takes its toll – but the gap he opened on the other players. Vladimir Kramnik is 51 points behind. In 1972, Bobby Fischer was 125 points ahead of Boris Spassky, his nearest contender. Adding inflation, Fischer's rating would hover around 2880 today. Garry Kasparov rose to his record rating of 2851 in 1999, 80 points above Vishy Anand.
From Chessbase : http://chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=8707