Do you think that Carlsen will play in other USCF rated tournaments besides the Sinquefield CUp?
Magnus Carlsen 3004 USCF
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how do you get a USCF rating without being as US citzen???
BTW wish I had an ACF rating anywhere near that
Lou-for-you wrote:
If that is the amount, he should play tennis.
I doubt he'd make anything like that in tennis.
OMG he broke the 3000 barrier! http://www.chess.com/groups/join?id=22638
It's a provisional rating, but over 3000 is pretty crazy indeed.
3000 ha! I eat 3000 for breakfast. Well, 3000 calories.
haha ya its provisional but that just means he can go even higher quicker :)
Sep 18, 2013
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i suppose he will play in st louis next year if they hold it again
Estragon wrote:
Carlsen said he would play next year if it fits his schedule. It's a nice payday for a week's work, $70,000 for six games. By contrast, the biggest tournament payday of the year may be Kramnik's net of $98,000 for winning the World Cup, but it took him three weeks and 16 classical games to earn it.
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It's like when the plumber comes out, turns something off, switches a pipe section and is gone in 15 mins, charging £200. You are paying for someone who knows what he is doing and has spent years building to the point where he can step in and earn his pay. $70K for a week? Have you seen what professional sportsmen earn? Besides which, consider that Carlsen is (dont take this the wrong way) an attractive package in terms of marketing for chess appeal. How much would a visiting lecturer celebrity charge to turn up and read pre-arranged speeches 6 times? This man will have to think at high level. Pay him his money and dont worry about the fact that it is 2 years wages for me. Wait, what side of this am I on....?
Records are broken from time to time.What do you think Fisher's rating today if he were still active? I don't think Magnus had a chance.
bean_Fischer wrote:
Records are broken from time to time.What do you think Fisher's rating today if he were still active? I don't think Magnus had a chance.
Given the knowledge he had back then when he won the WC, he would stand no chance. Chess players are better now, because of computer analysis that helps them improve their game a lot.
Chess earnings are WAY under what they should be. It takes what, 10 years of many hours practice per day, plus innate talent and brains and memory to become the best in the world or in the top 10? Yet they pay these over priced football, basketball, baseball, golfers multi millions for practicing a couple hours a day for four years. Good for Magnus. The world champion should get $10 million for his feat. Oh well, at least Bobby Fischer got $3.6 million for beating Spassky again in 1992 - that's like $5.5 million today. Way to go Bobby! Smart wasn't he?!!
Here_Is_Plenty wrote:
It's like when the plumber comes out, turns something off, switches a pipe section and is gone in 15 mins, charging £200. You are paying for someone who knows what he is doing and has spent years building to the point where he can step in and earn his pay. $70K for a week? Have you seen what professional sportsmen earn? Besides which, consider that Carlsen is (dont take this the wrong way) an attractive package in terms of marketing for chess appeal. How much would a visiting lecturer celebrity charge to turn up and read pre-arranged speeches 6 times? This man will have to think at high level. Pay him his money and dont worry about the fact that it is 2 years wages for me. Wait, what side of this am I on....?
The 60 minutes story on him showed he has 1.5 million a year in endorsements. He's the highest paid chessplayer in history. Young, handsome, athletic, brilliant mind, and a sex symbol so he's the only chess player ever to be worth a mainstream endorsement. If he gorws his hair long and carries around a guitar he'll be worth 20 mil a year in endorsements, lol. A lot of women would just love his genetics for their kids.
Sep 19, 2013
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Master_Po wrote:
Chess earnings are WAY under what they should be.
You are confusing how difficult something is and how valuable people perceive it to be. There is probably someone, somewhere who has spent his entire life practicing how to juggle more melons than anyone else in the world ever has. Surely he should be paid more than a top 100 professional golfer? No, that's not how the world works.
There is another scale of value which relates to what someone's work provides to the rest of society. One would have to be rather biased to say chess players score highly on this scale. Even other chess players only value what they do at a moderate level (how much are you willing to pay to play through a Carlsen game? To attend one? How much for a chess book? A lesson?)
Sep 19, 2013
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ajttja wrote:
OMG he broke the 3000 barrier! http://www.chess.com/groups/join?id=22638
Sneaky... click on this link and we are instantly members of your group!
Pay is based on how much publicity a chess match can accrue. We all know chess is a game for the mind. The average person does not know or play enough chess to care about watching chess matches. Usually chess matches are slow with not much physical action. Even though so much training and raw talent is beling displayed in front of them, most people cannot understand it and appreciate it for its full value. It's not like physical sports where there is alot of testosterone flying around and blood and violence while the beer and barbeque flows down there throats. The reason the athletes are paid more is because MORE PEOPLE WANT TO SEE IT. Hell until the 70's when Bobby Fisher brought chess to the Amercian masses(yes i know people played chess in the USA before Fischer, but it was not nearly as popular) most ppl didnt know anything about the game. It was considered a gentelman's intellectual game at exclusive clubs. To address someone elses comment, 4 years is practcially a career with athletic sports for most. This is because the body is limited and can take only so much abuse for so long. The strength of the mind can last for life. I wish Magnus was an American. They would promote him so well in the USA. He would be on commercials selling sports drinks claiming they helped him think better in chess matches lol. In conclusion I love chess, but I am a realist. We get an American as a World contender for the Champion title, you will see an explosion in chess popularity in the USA.
As you all know Carlsen just won the Sinquefield Cup convinvicingly and his new USCF rating is 3004 simply amazing.