I thought staples13 was dense but they were just conveying an opinion...
Justs99171 makes me want to apologize for thinking that....
Obviously wrong and they run away instead of admitting it.
Magnus Carlsen is an embarrassment
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Dec 26, 2018
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#544
RonPaulsSteelBalls wrote:
Triggered soy flake thread of the day
What is a soy flake?
staples13 wrote:
Magnus Carlsen is an absolute joke. The man has absolutely no heart whatsoever.
Tie score going into the final game of the World Chess Championship and he gets a big advantage and instead of trying to convert it offers a draw. Where’s the competitive drive? Where’s the belief in himself? Can you imagine Fischer or Kasparov offering a draw in that position?
Just disgusting behavior by a reigning world champion. No respect for competition whatsoever. I hope Caruana destroys him in the tiebreak. It would serve him right.
I have given my thoughts, and now it’s your turn chess.com. Was this the most disgusting behavior by a reigning champion in world chess championship history?
maybe not for everyone
Magnus Carlsen is an embarrasment
Dec 26, 2018
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#548
staples13 wrote:
Magnus Carlsen is an embarrasment
No you mean he's an embracement.
https://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/magnus-carlsen-is-an-embracement
Dec 26, 2018
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#549
Ridicolous wrote:
RonPaulsSteelBalls wrote:
Triggered soy flake thread of the day
What is a soy flake?
lfPatriotGames wrote:
Justs99171 wrote:
staples13 wrote:
Scottrf is right Justs9917 is wrong. There is no insufficient mating material rule with FIDE that is chess.com only. The only FIDE ways to draw are by agreement, 3 gold repetition, stalemate, 50 move rule, and positions where no legal set of moves could result in checkmate. The position in post 590 would be drawn on chess.com because a draw could be claimed as soon as the rook is exchanged as there would be insufficient mating material (despite there technically being a forced win) but it would not be drawn in a FIDE match because there is no insufficient material rule. The losing player could not claim a draw because there exists a legal set of moves that result in checkmate
No staples13, Scottrf is NOT right and I am NOT wrong. I never said anything about any FIDE rules. I said I used to be a USCF tournament director.
However, there is an insufficient mating material rule in FIDE. I suppose the wording is just a little too complicated for you.
After all this BS, I went and looked it up and:
The FIDE Laws of Chess says in article 9.6:
"The game is drawn when a position is reached from which a checkmate cannot occur by any possible series of legal moves, even with the most unskilled play. This immediately ends the game."
Well, that certainly covers what you would call insufficient mating material. Seeing how if one player has nothing but a knight or bishop, and the opposing player has nothing at all, that would be a position which checkmate cannot occur.
Basically, this is just the same rule. FIDE just doesn't specify or define insufficient mating material.
Whether or not one or both players have sufficient mating material is only an issue if one of the two players flag.
If neither player has sufficient mating material, obviously the game is drawn.
If one player flags and his opponent doesn't have sufficient mating material, the game is drawn.
But that's not what we were talking about. We were talking about a king and bishop vs. a king and knight. You said "The instant whatever material is removed from the board, resulting in a position where neither color has more than a bishop or knight (single minor piece) it's a drawn." I dont understand. It seems like your quoting of fide rules aligns more with what scott and staples are saying and not with what you said earlier.
The rules regarding insufficient mating material were more clearly defined 20+ years ago. What happened was that computers proved king+knight+knight could force checkmate against a lone king. The problem was that it took more than 50 moves, so it would be declared a draw by the 50 moves with no progress rule.
I don't know what the FIDE rule.
Sufficient mating material was considered to be queen, rook, bishop+bishop, and bishop+knight.
Now this seems obsolete, or whatever. I don't care. Some idiotic egomaniacs want to argue with me about this, but I just quit reading it.
A draw by insufficient mating material could be one of two things:
Neither player has sufficient mating material.
One player flagged and his opponent doesn't have sufficient mating material.
Also, prior to the invention of digital chess clocks with time delay, a player could claim insufficient losing chances. Some specific examples were listed, and I don't remember all of them. A draw by insufficient losing chances could be declared in a position where a 1400 rated player should be able to hold a draw against a 2200 player. This rule was abolished. With the time delay or increment, we're all forced to play it out.
Some examples would be:
king+rook vs king+rook
king+ rook pawn vs king in front of the rook pawn
easily drawn opposite color bishop endgames … maybe knight or bishop vs pawn.
I would have to go find the book and it's at my mother's house.
K_Brown wrote:
I thought staples13 was dense but they were just conveying an opinion...
Justs99171 makes me want to apologize for thinking that....
Obviously wrong and they run away instead of admitting it.
I wasn't wrong, much less obviously wrong.
As I said, I was a USCF tournament director; NOT a FIDE arbiter.
I have better things to do than argue with egotistical morons.
Jan 23, 2019
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#552
Curryhead1234 wrote:
He is so ugly he can make onions cry
... so ugly that when he was born, the doctor slapped his MOTHER.
All I can is that he won and has a good sense of humor. No Comment.
staples13 wrote:
Magnus Carlsen is an embarrasment
No, he is just way better than any other player on planet at the moment, and is light years ahead of Fabi in speed chess.
Why do you hate him so much? Is it because you suck at chess?
Jan 24, 2019
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#555
CroIggy wrote:
No, he is just way better than any other player on planet at the moment, and is light years ahead of Fabi in speed chess.
Why do you hate him so much? Is it because you suck at chess?
Shouldn't you actually defeat a player to be considered way better?
BonTheCat wrote:
Botvinnik4Ever wrote:
I think his point was that you're claiming there's a draw death in chess, and as a 1400 player, you aren't aware of the statistics, so your comments just seem weird and off-base.
Considering that I'm not a 1400 player, but rated quite a bit higher than that, I'm well aware of the drawing stats in elite chess. Clearly, he hasn't (nor have you, by the sounds of it) read my posts on the topic, because my point obviously flew far over his head.
Sweet beedjeeezus, what is wrong with people on this site? They think they can dismiss someone because they look at his/her rating, not understanding that the player in question perhaps doesn't even play rated games on this site (automatically leading to a rating of 1400, I guess?), but is here more for the forum. Furthermore, regardless of someone's rating, that person may have insights worth mulling over for a bit. Stop judging people's comments by the rating displayed on their profile.
The comments you made clearly revealed that you don't know the statistics in high level chess, and are claiming after the fact that you do because people in this thread made you look kind of stupid by pointing out how ignorant your comments were. I also want to point out that only weak players make comments of the type that you did, so your comment revealed your own strength and lack of knowledge. It is not that low-rated players cannot make great contributions, it is that certain players leak their lack of knowledge in a way that only uninformed, low-rated players do. Again, be smarter and understand the difference in that subtlety too. You've embarrassed yourself here.
Jan 31, 2019
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#557
Grandmaster Carlsen is arrogant and is starting to act like a jerk. Grandmaster Caruana is a more like-able person.
Glaucon333, you are correct. Magnus always seems angry and annoyed when he is at the podium being asked questions in press conferences. He never seems happy in any way, which gives a strange impression of chess players to the general public. The face of chess would have been much better with Caruana as champion.
So dumb. Magnus is a player in the match and is entitled to do whatever he pleases (within the rules) to do his best to win the match. He offered the draw because he felt he would win in tiebreaks, and he did.
If you don't like it, how about you qualify for the world championship match yourself and you'll be free to use whatever strategy you'd like then, alright?
hej