malicious time wasters - need new way to abandon a game without loosing...

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I respect and am patient with thinker but i cant stand wasting my time, this match this guy could have resigned after i declined the draw request or he could have accepted my later draw offer...

Heres one of many people who pass time maliciously, he offered a draw around the 6min: 45sec on his clock, i declined, a few mins passed i decided to offer a draw then he resigned at 33sec left -

Im tired of soo many people doing something like this, it happens quite often though most arent this much wasted time.

I know theres a report for people wasting time and ive been using it on people like this and blocking them

Is there anything else i can do that might make them think twice about not playing out a match? Should i resign the game so they win and get a better rating and have to play against harder people?

 

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rcs300 wrote:

Is there anything else i can do that might make them think twice about not playing out a match? Should i resign the game so they win and get a better rating and have to play against harder people? 

Oh, resigning does make their games harder doesn't it? Then you get to play easier games. That's so strange. It's almost justice except for your rating.

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JamesClrrke wrote:
‘Malicious?’
A bit dramatic….

James, what do you mean dramatic? Its like people just get up and leave their computer without resigning meanwhile im stuck sitting there waiting for them to move for 5min until i win from game being abandoned.

This happens quite often... Explain how im being dramatic.

I am a person who wants to play with people who dont take much time thinking to move but i understand sometimes someone needs a minute or two to think and im very patient those moments, but abandoning the game because you took too long, 5+min, to think; that is not 'playing chess' lol...

Thats leaving your opponent hanging because you didnt have the courage to just hit the resign button when you thought you were going to lose or when you didnt have time to finish the game...

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HELLO!

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5 mins is quite a lot of time to just waste. It adds up over multiple games.

Report them and let the abuse team give them a warning for stalling. 

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Isn’t chess just a waist of time all in all…
Avatar of BaronVonChickenpants

That's not true at all. Why should another player be allowed to just waste one's time by running down a clock for 5-10 mins?

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You need to brush up on the stalling rules, otherwise I agree with you

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You just wasted 5 minutes of my time period you don't even know how to play chess.

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When you chose the time controls and pressed that Play button you agreed to spend up to 20 minutes of your life on the game. Your opponent can use their entire 10 minutes without making a move if they wanted, just like you can spend your time however you want. Report them and move on. Complaining about it here is just a waste of your supposedly valuable time.

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I would generally agree with you Dylan , if the player was jsut playing slowly and taking a lot of time on their moves. It's theirs to use.  

 

However, sitting doing nothing for 6 minutes until the clock runs out or just to resign in the final minutes feels different and should be investigated.

 

I will always defend complaints of opponents who are just playing 'slowly' , bit not those who stall out a game out of spite

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BaronVonChickenpants wrote:

I would generally agree with you Dylan , if the player was jsut playing slowly and taking a lot of time on their moves. It's theirs to use.  

 

However, sitting doing nothing for 6 minutes until the clock runs out or just to resign in the final minutes feels different and should be investigated.

 

I will always defend complaints of opponents who are just playing 'slowly' , bit not those who stall out a game out of spite

I'm assuming he agrees that it is unsportsmanlike, which is why he said to report them and move on. People are going to do what people are going to do. Yes, it's annoying... but if you aren't prepared to use all the time allotted for a game, then play a different time control.

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rcs300 wrote:

I respect and am patient with thinker but i cant stand wasting my time, this match this guy could have resigned after i declined the draw request or he could have accepted my later draw offer...

Heres one of many people who pass time maliciously, he offered a draw around the 6min: 45sec on his clock, i declined, a few mins passed i decided to offer a draw then he resigned at 33sec left -

Im tired of soo many people doing something like this, it happens quite often though most arent this much wasted time.

I know theres a report for people wasting time and ive been using it on people like this and blocking them

Is there anything else i can do that might make them think twice about not playing out a match? Should i resign the game so they win and get a better rating and have to play against harder people?

 

I'd personally just wait. Your elo rating will go up, and you'll get a win. I'm I would personallyy as these are my priorities, but I'm not sure.

HOWEVER, it still isn't okay that they are doing stuff such as this. I'm not sure how would we solve this, but we should still propose a solution.

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BaronVonChickenpants wrote:

I would generally agree with you Dylan , if the player was jsut playing slowly and taking a lot of time on their moves. It's theirs to use.  

 

However, sitting doing nothing for 6 minutes until the clock runs out or just to resign in the final minutes feels different and should be investigated.

 

I will always defend complaints of opponents who are just playing 'slowly' , bit not those who stall out a game out of spite

That's what the report button is for, to let Chess.com know this player should be investigated for something. Unfortunately, there isn't much else we can do other than practice letting things go that are out of our control.

On a side note, I'm surprised you offered a draw in this position with three passed pawns.

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rcs300 wrote:

I am a person who wants to play with people who dont take much time thinking to move

Well Ron, no offense but that may be why you are 200 elo. Once you get out of the opening, it takes time to evaluate the position, check for threats and potential captures, think of candidate moves and then select the best one. I looked at the game in question and what you described is not quite accurate. Your opponent had 2 moves where he spent over 30 seconds thinking and there were no moves where he took over a minute. Your own think time maxed out at 16 seconds and most were made in less than 10 seconds (yes the record tells the "think time" for each move). You need to develop more patience if you want to play better chess, and use your own time wisely. If you leave a lot of time unused that is like giving away material.

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We need to find out where these people live. This is why you need a dictator.

Hello friends.

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There is a rule against stalling. How it is policed, who knows?

Once upon a time here, and perhaps still, if someone does not make a move within a given time, the game is aborted or forfeited, or both.

I suspect also that, under some circumstances you can go into the bad sports pool, if indeed, that mysterious pool actually exists, and what site sanctions follow from that.   

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DonThe2nd wrote:

there were no moves where he took over a minute.


So you say i lie that 5 or more minutes passed with no moves being made untill he resigned?

I dont know what game your looking at didnt even know you can look up other peoples matches since i havent tried, but your not referring to the game that i posted in that picture because thats exactly what happened, most people dont resign after 5min, usually its abandon after 5min - but that is what happened, no moves were made for 5 min then he resigned, thats what made it feel more malicious.

I think you may be replying from another post of mine maybe?, which did have something about long thinkers in the title.

But I dont have a problem with long thinkers, This post, or the other post, is not about long thinkers, as much as it is about expressing my dislike with the many people at chess.com that fail to hit resign when they think they might lose or if they dont have the time to finish the match, or if they just dont want to finish the match..., which is usually about 5min until the platform presumes an abandon game...

Just waste all that time waiting for my opponent to move and this does happen often, every time i play theres at least a few per session that happens with, waiting the whole 5min's, and multiple other opponents that just leave with a few mins on the clock until the platform presumes an abandon game after their time runs out...

Sometimes the platform detects they are not on the platform any longer, and the platform will presume an abandon game after 1 min, maybe it can detect when they close the app or the browser, but most people dont do that they, just leave it running and you waiting for them to move until abandonment is presumed...

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mercatorproject wrote:

There is a rule against stalling. How it is policed, who knows?

Once here, and perhaps still, if someone does not make a move within a given time, the game is aborted or forfeited, and sometimes both.

I suspect also that, ubder some cirsumstances you can go into the bad ports pool, if indeed, it actually exists.   


Lately the past week or two ive grown more impatient, ive been resigning more matches which doesnt help me none, but ive also been utilizing the report for stalling/quitting feature then blocking those people, i use it often now, i hope i dont run out of people to play with lol but this site has millions of active users so i dont think that will happen.

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Exactly. Play blitz.