All you people in here would get obliterated in a game against Judit Polgar. Except @GYG. He stands a chance.
except for Magnus Carlson, Bobby Fisher, Hikaru, and Garry Kasparov.
The great Judit Polgar already beat Carlsen and Kasparov. You can see her games and career on many websites, and here on Chees.com there are some video lessons with his best games against male GMs.
Regards,
All you people in here would get obliterated in a game against Judit Polgar. Except @GYG. He stands a chance.
except for Magnus Carlson, Bobby Fisher, Hikaru, and Garry Kasparov.
Even though Judit retired a decade ago and out of practice, she would easily beat anyone called "Magnus Carlson" and "Bobby Fisher". Who are those? Not masters, certainly.
Ok then.
Hopefully I wake up tomorrow and see these patchnotes:
-WGM, WIM, WFM, WCM titles removed (anybody with these titles will be given an equivalent title)
-Women's Division removed
-Stricter rules regarding conduct
Chess is a male-dominated sport. Males often have higher ratings. For example, the top male chess player is 2800+, while the top female player's rating is 2628.
So, males statistically perform better than women on average.
To make up for that difference, women have easier titles that they can attain. Additionally, they have female youth awards, female-only senior awards, etc. And if a woman attains the title of GM, that demonstrates they are one of the best female players out there.
Chess just isn't that popular among females overall.
If you're a female who's really great at chess, you'll get many awards without too much difficulty. However, if you're a male who's really good at chess, good luck.
Women have it easier in chess due to the gender separation. I see no point in changing it.
Still incorrect.
excellent line of reasoning
Did I miss the news of all the nations where mixed-gender tournaments are strictly illegal suddenly changing their laws?
Chess is a male-dominated sport. Males often have higher ratings. For example, the top male chess player is 2800+, while the top female player's rating is 2628.
So, males statistically perform better than women on average.
To make up for that difference, women have easier titles that they can attain. Additionally, they have female youth awards, female-only senior awards, etc. And if a woman attains the title of GM, that demonstrates they are one of the best female players out there.
Chess just isn't that popular among females overall.
If you're a female who's really great at chess, you'll get many awards without too much difficulty. However, if you're a male who's really good at chess, good luck.
Women have it easier in chess due to the gender separation. I see no point in changing it.
Running is a black-dominated sport. Do I see separate races for black people? No.
Running is a black-dominated sport. Do I see separate races for black people? No.
Dude, it's absolutely amazing that you got your example completely backwards.
Still incorrect.
excellent line of reasoning
Did I miss the news of all the nations where mixed-gender tournaments are strictly illegal suddenly changing their laws?
Did I miss the point that FIDE should have nothing to do with countries that treat women like cattle and ban players from participating because of race? Your argument is stupid. Nuff said. Women will be second class chess players forever with arguments like yours.
Did I miss the point that FIDE should have nothing to do with countries that treat women like cattle and ban players from participating because of race? Your argument is stupid. Nuff said. Women will be second class chess players forever with arguments like yours.
There are hundreds of millions of people living in these nations whose governments you don't like. Your proposal that they can have no access to the worldwide chess community is what is stupid.
Who gets to decide which nations are OK? Do you believe that all US citizens should be ineligible for FIDE events if some European chess bureaucrats feel that women and minorities are treated poorly here? FIDE is the global chess organization and should support chess everywhere.
I mentioned nothing about race, that is your invention. Please let us know which nations ban some races from playing chess, I've never heard of it.
I agree, I don't think so
Did I miss the point that FIDE should have nothing to do with countries that treat women like cattle and ban players from participating because of race? Your argument is stupid. Nuff said. Women will be second class chess players forever with arguments like yours.
There are hundreds of millions of people living in these nations whose governments you don't like. Your proposal that they can have no access to the worldwide chess community is what is stupid.
Who gets to decide which nations are OK? Do you believe that all US citizens should be ineligible for FIDE events if some European chess bureaucrats feel that women and minorities are treated poorly here? FIDE is the global chess organization and should support chess everywhere.
I mentioned nothing about race, that is your invention. Please let us know which nations ban some races from playing chess, I've never heard of it.
You know what nations ban players because of race and you know full well what nations treat women like cattle. If in the United States there was a strict ban on allowing Blacks to participate in tournaments or forbid players representing the United States to play against someone because of their race do you really think FIDE would sponsor tournaments there? Are Jews the only race that FIDE is comfortable to allow such treatment? Instead of playing this cat and mouse game of ignorance of what countries I was talking about how about discussing the real issue of giving women titles to make them feel special about themselves while forbidding any men to compete with them in their own segregated tournaments.
Why don't you just come out and admit that you don't believe women can compete on a level playing field against men. And if for some reason women don't play at the same level it doesn't change their worth one iota. At least give women a chance to prove how good they are instead of encouraging talented players like Alice Lee and others to excel in "women's chess." Judit Polgar was right when she said there was no telling how far Hou Yifan might have gone if she hadn't wasted her time playing in the weaker women's tournaments.
Instead of saying I know where racial discrimination in chess exists, just name some such places.
Had you read the posts I have made in this thread you would know I do support gender equality in chess. I have never said anything about women's chess abilities.
Women in Iran, Saudi Arabia have been fighting for more freedoms for years. How will it help them if FIDE "spits in their faces" by declaring they can no longer participate in organized chess at all? Why should the millions of Iranian and Saudi men who support them be vilified?
If Hou Yifan wants to play in whatever tournaments she wishes, what right do you or Judit Polgar have to say she shouldn't?
I noticed that the FIDE Commission for Women's Chess just released its rankings of member nations by gender equality. I imagine you will want Magnus Carlsen's world championships stricken from the record and his participation in any future competition nixed, as Norway is #94 (out of 100) in gender equality in chess.
Before you criticize the ranking process, remember that it is these FIDE bureaucrats you want to decide which nations' players should be excluded from international chess.
Instead of saying I know where racial discrimination in chess exists, just name some such places.
Had you read the posts I have made in this thread you would know I do support gender equality in chess. I have never said anything about women's chess abilities.
Women in Iran, Saudi Arabia have been fighting for more freedoms for years. How will it help them if FIDE "spits in their faces" by declaring they can no longer participate in organized chess at all? Why should the millions of Iranian and Saudi men who support them be vilified?
If Hou Yifan wants to play in whatever tournaments she wishes, what right do you or Judit Polgar have to say she shouldn't?
Less than a year ago Chess Grandmaster Amin Tabatabaei quit a match because "he was concerned about possible reprisals from the ruling regime once he returned to Iran. The Islamic Republic’s official policy rejects Israel’s right to exist and bans Iranian athletes from competitions that feature Israelis." You can google what countries won't allow women the freedom to drive a car or walk alone without a male relative or require women to show only their eyeballs. Quit acting ignorant.
Your argument for keeping women's tournaments separate because of the behavior of a handful of countries makes no sense.
In an ideal world, chess wouldn't be gendered and there'd be an equal number of men and women in the sport, but the fact is that chess is a male dominated sport. Chess has always been a male dominated sport. You could say that this is because society views men as logical thinkers and problem solvers, while women are seen as more creative; the same reason why there aren't as many high-paid women in STEM.
Most women going into chess professionally may feel out of place in a male dominated tournament. A female only category helps alleviate that, as well as encouraging more women to get into the sport.
That, and also playing competitively against people who think chess is a sport isn't so appealing.
Your argument for keeping women's tournaments separate because of the behavior of a handful of countries makes no sense.
I don't argue for keeping women's tournaments separate, I just note that there are some situations in which they can't be easily and immediately eliminated. You might note that FIDE's ranking of nations by gender equality in chess, compiled by the same FIDE officials you wish to have the power to eliminate some nations and their citizens from participating in international competitions lists Iran at #48, the US at #82, and Israel at #90.
Still incorrect.
excellent line of reasoning
Did I miss the news of all the nations where mixed-gender tournaments are strictly illegal suddenly changing their laws?
That's a majority of nations?
In an ideal world, chess wouldn't be gendered and there'd be an equal number of men and women in the sport, but the fact is that chess is a male dominated sport. Chess has always been a male dominated sport. You could say that this is because society views men as logical thinkers and problem solvers, while women are seen as more creative; the same reason why there aren't as many high-paid women in STEM.
Most women going into chess professionally may feel out of place in a male dominated tournament. A female only category helps alleviate that, as well as encouraging more women to get into the sport.
That, and also playing competitively against people who think chess is a sport isn't so appealing.
it sounds like you are just scared of a little friendly competition.
In an ideal world, chess wouldn't be gendered and there'd be an equal number of men and women in the sport, but the fact is that chess is a male dominated sport. Chess has always been a male dominated sport. You could say that this is because society views men as logical thinkers and problem solvers, while women are seen as more creative; the same reason why there aren't as many high-paid women in STEM.
Most women going into chess professionally may feel out of place in a male dominated tournament. A female only category helps alleviate that, as well as encouraging more women to get into the sport.
That, and also playing competitively against people who think chess is a sport isn't so appealing.
it sounds like you are just scared of a little friendly competition.
As I said, it's WHO I play against that matters. Not what their ability is. I would rather play against someone rated 2300 who is honest and friendly than someone rated 1500 who is delusional. But that's just me. I know some people wouldn't care. I do. I won't play just anyone.
Still incorrect.
excellent line of reasoning