More OTB Cheating !

The acronym WC refers to the toilet, in case anyone wondered.

Someone just got his account closed for cheating.  I understand they may not be able to void the 2 games he took off me but could I not be allowed his correct name and address so I could send in the ninja robot assassins?

Common, the situation is so clear that it's really laughable to "alert" the staff. I mean, you have many guys who let Rybka make all their moves. It's just so simple!

Feller on anther hand showed that tough anti-cheating measures are needed. Why the 15 minutes delay, which has been discussed for a long time, was not implemented? Why there was no search of the players and the audience for electronic devices? This thing started to become standard even for school exams, yet some organize a chess olympiad and ignore it??

Erik would listen WGM more openly than Costelus or Collyer i guess.

@Feller & no measures - maybe Russians left it open deliberately, just in case their own players "needed help" in critical matches.

So,generally you really do not know what you are playing against here.

They have Pruess now in the staff. So? Has anyhting changed? Yes, now they have Pruess in the staff, that's all what has changed :)

Generally, at the level you and I play at, you're very unlikely to encounter someone who is consistently using an engine to cheat here.  They have a tendency to propel themselves up towards to top of the rating pool, where we won't typically get matched with them.

There was a brief period of action that provided a little bit of hope.  Sadly, it was extremely brief. 

Well, I think you'll find bondocel's preference is to indict the site for it's "lax" anti-cheating policies even if it comes at the expense of appearing to give a blatant cheater a "pass".

Well firstly I'm someone who doesn't hide behind an anonymous website username

Second, I am rated between about 1600-1800 in CC on those site which I use & also around 1700 OTB - so in other words I'm a slightly below average local club player who (amazing though it may be!) plays at about the same level in both CC & OTB.

Third, I was taught basic match rate cheat detection methodology by a FIDE 2300 Games Moderator at another site & was the first to discuss it with chess.com site owner erik here.

I don't know what methods chess.com uses to detect cheats, but I & a group of volunteers sent tickets on possible engine cheats & left it for staff to take matters further if need be.

One of the best things about the methodology is that you don't need to be a genius to use it.  You simply select the last 20 games from a suspect vs 2200+ rated opposition which are all found to have 20 or more non-database moves.  Then you just auto-analyse them with a 3000+ Elo rated engine using a program called Batch Analyzer & wait about 10-20 hours for the results to be spewed-out.  Fortunately for the 99.999% of us that play chess, you need not be a GM to do this analysis!

Lastly, I could have told you all of this via PM, but perhaps that's not something that had occurred to you!

It's all very well, Steve, but we really need to know much more about you, i.e. what are your favorite movies, favorite drink, who is your favorite WCC, your favorite author, where you'd like to vacation if you had unlimited funds, your best game so far, etc.

I posted this in another thread in the cheating forum this-morning:

If this society here wants to get rid of progplayers, all we need is the Trophy of Antidoping! When a player gets 3 trophys, all his/her games would been analyzed. That´s simple is that. Unfortunately this procedure would raise costs and membership fee.

First of all, this society needs to get rid of anonymous newcomers, at least for rated tournaments, team matches and team vote games. Then, after eliminating such garbage from the heart of this community and effectively keeping them out until they prove to be trustworthy chessplayers, we can proceed further.

I am anonymous newcomer and I play rated tournaments, TM and VC - I have my reasons to be anonymous on the internet site (I don't want to be googled by any1 who wants to check where I live, facebook ,my job etc.). Why r u calling me garbage???

Do you consider yourself trustworthy?

Cheaters have reasons not to get googled (to avoid shame), but i can't understand the reasons of honest players. It is quite normal that chessplayers play under real names.

Well, if Chess.com wants to move further and become a serious chess site as computer-free counterpart of ICCF-web, then real names must become mandatory.

 Or for the pride or accomplishment in beating the system (ie: cheating).

Who do you think you are to judge me trustworthy or not? or calling ppl who want to protect their identity garbage? Do you really think that if you put some name in your profile you are better than me? 

It's all BS - as far as I know chess.com dont want to be a rival to ICCF or FIDE. 

The process is about reading some numbers. With two decimals. Yes, it's that simple. Now, it's your choice to do it yourself, hire a high-school student, a GM, Kasparov or Steve Jobs. It only depends on how much you are willing to spend.

I guess you wouldn't mind if your boss is able to google your real name and find that today, while you were at work, you played 10 bullet games at chess.com. :))

As you saw with Dembo or Stefan Docx for instance, playing under the real name has nothing to do with cheating.