MOST STUPID RULE : STALEMATE

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NikkiLikeChikki
There are GMs who don’t like the rule, but they don’t whine about it being unfair. There are dozens of players who have started anti-stalemate threads and they invariably have triple-digit ratings. Experienced players know that if you stalemate an opponent, it’s almost always your fault.

BTW, I have heard GMs say that they don’t like the stalemate rule, but they aren’t jumping up and down on their soapboxes about it. Mostly they say, “meh, don’t like it” in the same way someone would say they don’t like mosquito bites. It’s nothing they rage about like the whiners in forums here.
LoveSchach

Of course it's nearly always your fault if you stalemate an opponent, because that is the way the rules work.

It's just a bizarre rule - I think that's why new players struggle to understand it. I can't think of another game where a player is unable to continue playing (and their opponent is) and they don't automatically forfeit the game.

pelaajakissa

I enjoyed once very much because of the rule of stalemate. I was playing and I was to lose. The opponent had a big material advantage. It was daily chess. Then I noticed that I could move to situation where the "natural" answer to my move if you don't think would lead to stalemate. I did the move and suggested draw. My opponent answered very angry. What kind of draw? I am clearly winning. And he made a move and it was stalemate. I remember it sometimes again and again and smile for that.

TheZugswanger

No it is a good rule just get good at the game.

JackRoach

Do you have any suggestions for a new rule? Maybe they win instead of drawing?

Anonymous_Dragon

No why should they win? Stalemate is logical

mahone20

you are right, how can this situation happen in a battle? it's your turn king, make your move! I can't.. there is nowhere I can go!! I'm not even in check.. if it was your turn, you could have kill me but.. nothing to do now.. Well.. battle is over I guess, let's go back to our homes. peace.

jetoba
JackRoach wrote:

Do you have any suggestions for a new rule? Maybe they win instead of drawing?

That would allow a lone king to win (Black Ke6, White Kh8, Ph7) with ... Kf7 stalemating white and winning with a lone Black K vs a White K+P.

That would change the rule about whether a flagged opponent loses if a sole king (not flagged) could win by flagging a player K plus a-pawn (or h-pawn) plus any other amount of material.

Zinc_Man

This is "Gay" apparently, as previously stated in a different thread .... But I don't think it is gay myself. And also the chess being happy thing I'm also questioning that too. 

austinthompson23
Cool
Zinc_Man

I know it's awesome. 

MassimoSchach

Hahaha

Zinc_Man

nTzT

It's a good rule. It's only annoying if you are in a time scramble or if you are new to the game and oblivious to it.

crocodilestyle1

To be fair it is an amazing rule - you can be being destroyed, and yet you still have the chance to punish inaccurate play. Even if you are three queens up and your rook looks nice (rooks always like nice) you still have to think about your moves.

 

(P.S. not having a go at the OP, I am pretty sure after being annoyed by this rule it will be something that is learned, if you look for stalemates, you will also get better at looking for mates.)

kartikeya_tiwari
NovitiateOne wrote:
If a new player doesn’t know what stalemate is and how it works then it must be time for him to learn it. And if a new player doesn’t want to learn it, then he should be ready for a lot of heartache. It has been declared as a draw since 1807, before any of us was even born.

There were many, many things which used to happen in 1807 which we have viciously disregarded so "it used to happen in 1807 so it's fine" attitude does not justify the rule

kartikeya_tiwari
nTzT wrote:

It's a good rule. It's only annoying if you are in a time scramble or if you are new to the game and oblivious to it.

its annoying because it doesn't make any logical sense

kartikeya_tiwari
NikkiLikeChikki wrote:
There are GMs who don’t like the rule, but they don’t whine about it being unfair. There are dozens of players who have started anti-stalemate threads and they invariably have triple-digit ratings. Experienced players know that if you stalemate an opponent, it’s almost always your fault.

BTW, I have heard GMs say that they don’t like the stalemate rule, but they aren’t jumping up and down on their soapboxes about it. Mostly they say, “meh, don’t like it” in the same way someone would say they don’t like mosquito bites. It’s nothing they rage about like the whiners in forums here.

Shaming someone for their rating instead of logically defending this stupid "rule" doesn't make you sound like a logical person.

zl0ck

i agree, stalemate is one of the dumbest rules with the enpasant move THE most dumbest

Steven-ODonoghue
zl0ck wrote:

i agree, stalemate is one of the dumbest rules with the enpasant move THE most dumbest

On the contrary, they are both very logical rules. However many people such as yourself who don't understand them are the real dumbest ones