My first rated game in a few years. Trying to learn some openings, first London.

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MrDamonSmith

My reasoning behind wanting to learn the caro-slav-london openings is about the pawn structures & the strategic objectives behind them. Its the structures that create plans & I felt I was saving time by learning systems that are connected structure-wise. The pawn structure is what makes them related in my opinion. Another example would be learning the kings indian, pirc, kings indian attack. Or the sicilian dragon, benoni, english, etc. I know the London isnt that great, but Im a more strategic/positional style player & I want something that will make the opponent out work me positionally & I want to save time on opening study. I just want to be in an even position going into the middlegame. I can plan & execute fairly well without knowing openings but I have to get a level playing field out of the opening if Im to ever get better. I believe my strategic understanding exceeds my rating & if I just learn some openings for a change I could get better, hopefully. As an example: in my nine tournament games vs. official masters Im 2 wins, 6 losses, 1 draw and against titled players (13 games, 4 titled opponents had dropped below 2200 so I didnt consider them "masters" anymore for statistical purposes) Im 3 wins, 7 losses, 3 draws, all of which were out of "book" early and mostly because my titled opponents deliberate dragged it into those areas believing (& theyre right about this for the most part) that most non masters are mostly opening gurus and kind of weak when it comes to middlegames & endings. But I never learned openings unlike most players my rating & up, its been mostly middlegames and some endings. My point is I feel I play stronger when Im off the beaten path a little bit and in a strategical type struggle where Im fighting for squares, hindering the mobility of a piece, making an opponents outpost get a little fragile, weakening color complexes, etc. Sure tactics are fun and neccessary and attacks are part of the game but I dont go out of my way to get those positions where those are the main theme.

plutonia
MrDamonSmith wrote:

 My point is I feel I play stronger when Im off the beaten path a little bit and in a strategical type struggle where Im fighting for squares, hindering the mobility of a piece, making an opponents outpost get a little fragile, weakening color complexes, etc. Sure tactics are fun and neccessary and attacks are part of the game but I dont go out of my way to get those positions where those are the main theme.

 

I feel the same: I've always been an e4 player but I'm getting sick of going against people who know 15 moves of theory of sicilian, french, caro, etc. Studying openings is a thing I enjoy (because I focus on learning strategical concepts and not just memorizing moves) but I'm a great disadvantage because I've been playing chess for 1 year and a half. And I'm going agaisnt people who've been playing a certain line for 20+ years.

 

However, I would advice you against playing the London or Colle.

First you just need to encounter the Qb6 line and your trust in the London will be cut in a half. But regardeless of your result, the problem still stands: the London is a dry and boring opening.

You play the same sort of positions every single time. Black is never really challenged, but cannot shake things up either, so again the position is boring as hell. This is really bad for anybody's chess development.

You learn chess (and you have fun) by getting into interesting and unusual positions. And there's a whole truckload of them with the 1.d4 2.c4 openings. There are lines with monster theory but you can avoid all of them and still retain an advantage (unlike with 1. e4 I would say). The possible moves are so many (for both sides) that you'll soon be on your own and into an interesting strategical struggle. Chess intuition and creativity will be rewarded.

 

It's a paradox that you want to play the London. The London is specifically for people who don't want to get off the beaten track. It's for people who want to play the same thing every single time. Just doing their own little system.

 

At least the Trompowsky or Veresov usually lead to interesting positions, if you really want to get a system. But the London is the death of creativity.

KingGS007

u had pretty good winning chances Re1 was a big mistake by Rd1 was just winning .

cxd4 is better move than exd4 without any doubt , ur opponent blundered  with Bxh2 and tht position was winning for you , end game was a bit better and also queen exchnge was bad better was either Bc4+ and thn Qxe4!!.and u r winning

MrDamonSmith

The reason I wanted the B on f1 was to two fold. From g2 it pressures the long diagonal leading to the Q side where I have a 3-2 majority for later engame strategy. Also, it is for defence. Black can get an easy draw any time he wants if the B leaves for c4 by checking on g6 and h6. It may have been better to keep Qs on but I felt I could outplay him without me playing defence so much and with no Qs I didnt have to worry about attacks so much.

I dont see how Rd1 was winning.

KingGS007

no actually his attack was not worth fearing as ur light squared bihsop on g2 was a key defender and he was down in material for no compensation and from g2 ur bishop was also placed really well i think Rd1 was a key move u missed and played RE1??

moreover u missed a simple win by Nc4!!

MrDamonSmith

I like the Rd1 idea. Are you saying after f6 THEN play Rxd5 instead of Rxe4?

KingGS007

yes

exactly

KingGS007

even if he doesnt play f6 he loses the d5 pawn and u control the d5 file and its over he muct resign nw

MrDamonSmith

I thought I could outplay him after his ill advised attack. I shouldnt have played Re5

KingGS007

no Re5 was a good move putting pressure on d5 and forcing him to defend the key move was thn Rd1!! and Re1? was a mistake.

KingGS007

aftr Re1 f6 brought him back into the game and u lost ur big advantage

MrDamonSmith

I lose material after Rxd5

KingGS007

hw?

KingGS007

put this as  a variation on this thread.

willbecomeaGM

please can you make the pieces able to see

KingGS007

i think u r worried about Rd6 move but u have Qb3!!

u play Rd1 thn ur opponents best move is Qf8 and aftr Rxd5 - Rxd5 , Rd6 is met by Qb3 with winning advantge for white.

KingGS007

and his a7 pawn is also hanging

MrDamonSmith

Oh, I never thought I had time to worry about those Q side pawns in the middle game. Those were meant to be long term targets

KingGS007

yep ur opponent drew a lost position

KingGS007

aftr Qf8 u can frst tke 17 pawn and next d5 will fall and he is in a completely lost positon as nw evn b7 is a good target