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tones

Where did my topic on Catholic Girls go? Thats what I want to know

tones

Religious topics eh? I was using lyrics from a Frank Zappa song intended to be funny. In no way were they offensive to people with brains and a sense of humour. Even in death Zappa continues to be censored and i am the one offended, who is there to salve my hurt feelings?

tones

And what i really would like to know is why does it hurt when i pee? Religious topics my arse. Oops, censor me quickly i've gone mad and hurt many a feeling and yes i said the word arse, even Catholic arse, is that religious or do Catholics not have an arse or mammalian protuberances? Or even mustaches... I could go on and will do

ilikeflags

tones are you new?  have you not noticed they tolerate almost nothing here.  i'm not so sure your thread was that funny.  it wasn't the end of the world, but there should be no surprise at all that big brother cut it.  the biggest surprise is that you think it should still be up.

ps love galway.  one of ireland's nicest cities.

tones

Im not new here, this is the second topic of mine to be removed and its getting annoying. What wasn't funny about it, surely it was obvious that it wasn't intended to be taken seriously? I do think it should still be up because I don't see what the problem is and I want some one to tell me what the issue is.I was using lyrics from a song, does this mean that all lyrics are a no-no here or is it only safe to quote from songs that staff members like?

ilikeflags

your comments were far from funny.  i'm not saying i was offended but funny is not what i'd call it.  and eve if it was funny, this isn't a comedy website.  period.  wanna crack catholic girl jokes, i'm sure there's a website out there for that.  i'm not trying to bust your balls but it seems silly that you're bothered by it.  who cares?  i mean seriously...  you really care that staff removed your thread? 

ivandh

"I want some one to tell me what the issue is."

scottk74 wrote:

no religion topics read the rules on post


zombywoof
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ilikeflags

i get what you're saying but in this case it's total bullshit.  chess.com is a bussiness and a privately owned website.  the admins are responsible to define what is allowed and acceptable and they have to be able to control (to some extent) content that does not meet those standards.  this isn't a country.  it's a chess website.

snore me a river.

EternalChess

Why do you want to be funny?

wanna make friends? go challenge someone and talk to them..

ichabod801

This isn't about censorship. If you want to crack jokes about catholic girls, you are free to do so: in any public place in the US. This is not a public place in the US, this is a private website, whose rules on appropriate content you agreed to when you registered.

AMcHarg

zombywolf I think you are correct in many ways but in this one you are wrong in many ways too.  I don't think Chess.com staff try to control opinion on these forums; they just simply want to avoid topics which will turn the forum into a slagging match. Anything that relates to religious topics will inevitably cause argument and will discourage many people from reading the forums as a consequence, not to mention the fact that it's nothing Chess related.


Censorship is particularly important when you consider that there are minors reading here, and your argument regarding this is wrong.  Parents don't want their children to see/read certain things not because it might give them an opinion that contradicts their parents (as independence can be healthy there), but simply because there are some things which adults understand that will actually hurt children psychologically.  Apart from the fact that children are easily indoctrinated because they are very naive and we don't want our children to be taken in by zealots for instance.  You only have to look back at the Hitler Youth to realise how much more easily children can be indoctrinated than adults.


So while I respect your opinion and agree with much of it I think, if directed at Chess.com staff, it's a tad unfair!
A

tones
SerbianChessStar wrote:

Why do you want to be funny?

wanna make friends? go challenge someone and talk to them..


 I have enough friends thanks very much and i dont particularly want to be funny although life is a bit too serious. I was merely reaching out....Thanks for your contribution, i shall now go and make friends, challenge someone and talk to someone else

buster47

One thing is to delete a Forum , (some burn books) but not to have the courage or the politeness to send the author a note why it was deleted that is rude.  

zombywoof

All methods of communication is enabled through private business, government sponsorships (our tax dollars), or charity sponsorship (our donations) with the exception of your own physical voice in the sphere of its listening range.  So ilikeflags your response is, to use your own phrase of choice "total bullshit". 

 

Chess.com is a business and as such, can make the decision to succomb to the minority of its members.  Nonetheless they are using the same flawed logic as any other censorship.  Chess.com has already provided YOU with the ability to ignore forums as you choose, to censor the people or forums that YOU do not wish to read.  That is not why you still demand censorship.....  It is because YOU wish to control the content of what OTHERS have available to them.  So my points made earlier do indeed still apply.

 

AMcHarg, your respectful discourse is appreciated.  I enjoy chess.com and think that they do a fine job for the most part.  My comments are directed at ALL those who are complicit in the encouragement of censorship.  That includes those who are aggressively doing so to promote an agenda and/or setting themselves up to judge what is acceptable for others; or those who passively allow their own freedoms to be eroded and do nothing while it occurs.  Your argument regarding children's exposure on a chess.com forum is weakened by the fact that they are on the Internet already and can seek out such content if that is their desire.  It is the parents responsibility, not the government's or chess.com's to teach their children how to protect themselves.  Parents should not allow their children to be on the interstate highway nor the Internet highway without supervision, until parents are convinced that their children have the skills to do so safely.  To do otherwise is leaving their children to whom they have a responsibility to protect vulnerable.  That responsibility must be placed upon the parents and should not be the responsibility of chess.com to police nor it be the responsibility of government to police speech unless it is leading to the physical harm of those who are the recipients. (like shouting fire in a crowded movie theater)

u1066
buster47 wrote:

One thing is to delete a Forum , (some burn books) but not to have the courage or the politeness to send the author a note why it was deleted that is rude.  


 Thay seem to delete forums a lot on this site without saying why.

zombywoof

I did not see tones' forum which was censured, but I am quite familiar with the song "Catholic Girls" by Frank Zappa.  Zappa uses humor/satire to expose existing stereotypes of various groups of people (in this case Catholic girls).  Instead of censoring and allowing such stupid stereotypes to persist, we should take the opportunity which Zappa offers us.  We should confront it with the reasoning of which will make people less ignorant of why such stereotypes are there so they don't demean themselves by perpetuating it.  Censorship does not work, and I have seen for myself how the same people demanding censorship to "protect" their children continue that same evasion of responsibility in their own homes.  They refuse to teach their children about sex and drugs and instead just demand abstinence.  Then in many cases want that same ignorance in others by demanding that sex education not be discussed in the classroom......  To then be surprised that their children become drug users or pregnant is quite ironic.

KyleJRM

How about we take the opportunity which Zappa offers us over at, I don't know, a culture or music site?  There is a place for such discussions, and a chess forum is not it.

CPawn
tones wrote:

Where did my topic on Catholic Girls go? Thats what I want to know


1. Read the terms that you agreed to when you signed up.

2. What do catholic girls have to do with chess?

tones

There are plenty of topics on this site which are not related to chess, it is a forum for discussion and general chat. I assume that those who play chess have more than one interest and they can be discussed here. I dont see any problem with that.